You honestly think someone who is pure of heart and who seeks to do the righteousness of Christ is going to side with bullies? Okay.
Anyways, getting back to the topic: I would l like to know what you think 1 John 1:9 says. Why do you think it is not talking about salvation for the seasoned believer?
Does not 1 John 2:1 tie into 1 John 1:9?
If not, then why do you think that?
First I wasn't calling you a bully. I think you are very sincere, very hard to persuade, and often wrong in spite of your sincerity.
I think 1 Jn 1:5-2:11
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
KJV
is one continuous line of thought.
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that
God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. I think that the contrast between light and darkness here refers to a Spiritual vs a worldly focus in both thoughts and actions.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him,
and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
and walk in darkness I believe this speaks of persistently and habitually following worldly rather than Spiritual values.
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
I f we adopt Scriptural values, and persistently, and habitually act on them (this is a natural result of the Holy Spirit's indwelling)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we confess our sins, means if we persistently and habitually confess (present active subjunctive)
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Even believers with a lifestyle of obedience will on occasion stumble into sin.
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you,
that ye sin not.
And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
that ye sin not that you do not sin occasionally [aorist active subjunctive]
And if any man sin, and if any man sin occasionally (and you can expect that he will) [third class condition]
2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and
not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
And he is the propitiation for our sins He is the covering for our sins (he removes them from God's sight)
3 And hereby we do know that we know him,
if we keep his commandments.
if we keep if we persistently and habitually keep [present active subjunctive] (this is an indication of fhe Holy Spirit's indwelling)
4 He that saith, I know him,
and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
and keepeth not and does not persistently and habitually keep [present active subjunctive]