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One abides in Christ by abiding in the words of God, and the Living Word of God will also make His abode in you. Abiding in Christ is abiding in the Word of God which is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God's Word is Spirit and is Life, so to abide in the Life of the Vine (Christ) you must also abide in these.
2 John 9-10 "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.[SUP]10 [/SUP]If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:"
2 John 9-10 "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.[SUP]10 [/SUP]If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:"
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HA! HA!! HA!!!!....... gosh I hope you were making a joke
........he was NOT saying the bible IS Jesus Christ.
forgive me for speaking for you InSpirit... but that question was just so outrageous...
........he was NOT saying the bible IS Jesus Christ.forgive me for speaking for you InSpirit... but that question was just so outrageous...
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The bible is the "recorded and preserved" word of God..it is a BOOK. If you write in a journal, and we read it... is the journal now become YOU???
Do you have mental problem? Learning disability or take medication that suggests you should not operate machinery??? I am just asking, hoping to easily explain the absurd conclusion you have come to.
Do you have mental problem? Learning disability or take medication that suggests you should not operate machinery??? I am just asking, hoping to easily explain the absurd conclusion you have come to.
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The bible is the "recorded and preserved" word of God..it is a BOOK. If you write in a journal, and we read it... is the journal now become YOU???
Do you have mental problem? Learning disability or take medication that suggests you should not operate machinery??? I am just asking, hoping to easily explain the absurd conclusion you have come to.
Do you have mental problem? Learning disability or take medication that suggests you should not operate machinery??? I am just asking, hoping to easily explain the absurd conclusion you have come to.
good day sir,
nice topic
please allow me share some simple words
written in the scriptures,
Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed for Him to be circumcised, His Name was called יהושע, the Name given by the messenger before He was conceived in the womb.
Acts 7:8
“And He gave him the covenant of circumcision. And so he brought forth Yitsḥaq and circumcised him on the eighth day. And Yitsḥaq brought forth Ya‛aqoḇ, and Ya‛aqoḇ brought forth the twelve ancestors.
Acts 15:1
And certain men came down from Yehuḏah and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised, according to the practice of Mosheh, you are unable to be saved.”
Acts 15:2
So when Sha’ul and Barnaḇah had no small dissension and dispute with them, they arranged for Sha’ul and Barnaḇah and certain others of them to go up to Yerushalayim, to the emissaries and elders, about this question.
Acts 10:45
And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Kĕpha, because the gift of the Set-apart Spirit had been poured out on the gentiles also,
as we read this verses, we can easily see that the holy spirit was even special to the gentiles for it had been poured out on the gentiles also,
I DONT KNOW IF SOMEONE HERE WOULD STAND AND SAY
``THOSE GENTILES WERE CIRCUMCISE AT THAT TIME, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW COZ THEY NEVER SAW IT WHAT'S IN THERE BELOW`` :rofl:
that is why even paul and his companion is againsn't to some teachings of moises and one of that teachings is the
``cimcurcision``
AND EVEN PETER HIMSELF IS AGAINST IT
Acts 11:2
And when Kĕpha went up to Yerushalayim, those of the circumcision were contending with him,
DID YOU KNOW THAT IT IS FORBIDDEN TO A JEW TO HAVE A CONTACT
TO ANY GENTILES AT THAT TIME FOR IT WAD THEIR TRADITION!
Acts 11:3
3 saying, “You went in to uncircumcised men and ate with them!”
4 But Kĕpha began and set it forth in order, saying:
5 “I was in the city of Yapho praying. And in a trance I saw a vision, a certain vessel descending like a great sheet, let down from the heaven by four corners, and it came to me.
6 “Having looked into it, I perceived and I saw four-footed beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping creatures, and the birds of heaven.
7 “And I heard a voice saying to me, ‘Rise up, Kĕpha, slay and eat.’
8 “But I said, ‘Not at all, Master! Because whatever is common or unclean has never entered into my mouth.’
9 “And the voice answered me again from the heaven, ‘What Elohim has cleansed you do not consider common.’
10 “And this took place three times, and all were drawn up again into the heaven.
11 “And see, immediately three men stood before the house where I was, having been sent to me from Caesarea.
12 “And the Spirit said to me to go with them, not doubting at all. And these six brothers also went with me, and we went into the man’s house.
for they the early isralites, even they were the choisen people before,
they only base that teaching from flesh because god intended them to do that within the people of isralites so that they can be distinguised from other humans who worshipped other gods.
``IS THERE ANY WRITTEN SCRIPTURES COMING FROM THE HOLY BIBLE ITSELF THAT COULD TELL US
WHEN AND WHERE IN THE COMMANDMENTS OF CIRCUMCISSION EXPLAINED IT WAS REALLY A BIG DEAL TO ATTAIN THE SALVATION OF PURIFYING OUR SOULS
BY DOING IT LITERALLY IN FLESH?``
Colossians 3:11
where there is not Greek and Yehuḏite, circumcised and uncircumcised, foreigner, Scythian, slave, free, but Messiah is all, and in all.
Galatians 5:6
For in Messiah יהושע neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any strength, but belief working through love.
``PLEASE INFORM SOMEONE IF THEY WERE TOLD THAT THIS GUY IS THE MESSIAH``
Colossians 4:11
also Yeshua who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the reign of Elohim who are of the circumcision, who were to me a comfort.
IS HE? OR DOES HE?
Philippians 3:5
circumcised the eighth day, of the race of Yisra’ĕl, of the tribe of Binyamin, a Heḇrew of Heḇrews, according to Torah a Pharisee,
FOR MANY WERE DECIEVED BY THIS VERSE
MISTAKEN SOMEONE FOR SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE EASILY UNDERSTAND
WITHOUT KEEPING THE WORD OF GOD TO HIS HEART AND SOUL!!
Colossians 4:11
also Yeshua who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the reign of Elohim who are of the circumcision, who were to me a comfort.
Titus 1:10
For there are many unruly men, senseless talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,
i my self doing this as my promise to him
and im not even a jewish
please read the whole chapter and do not depend on a certain verses only if there's have doubt to any mind of a certain people.
Romans 2:1
Therefore, O man, you are without excuse, everyone who judges, for in which you judge another you condemn yourself, since you who judge practise the same wrongs.
nice topic
please allow me share some simple words
written in the scriptures,
Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed for Him to be circumcised, His Name was called יהושע, the Name given by the messenger before He was conceived in the womb.
Acts 7:8
“And He gave him the covenant of circumcision. And so he brought forth Yitsḥaq and circumcised him on the eighth day. And Yitsḥaq brought forth Ya‛aqoḇ, and Ya‛aqoḇ brought forth the twelve ancestors.
Acts 15:1
And certain men came down from Yehuḏah and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised, according to the practice of Mosheh, you are unable to be saved.”
Acts 15:2
So when Sha’ul and Barnaḇah had no small dissension and dispute with them, they arranged for Sha’ul and Barnaḇah and certain others of them to go up to Yerushalayim, to the emissaries and elders, about this question.
Acts 10:45
And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Kĕpha, because the gift of the Set-apart Spirit had been poured out on the gentiles also,
as we read this verses, we can easily see that the holy spirit was even special to the gentiles for it had been poured out on the gentiles also,
I DONT KNOW IF SOMEONE HERE WOULD STAND AND SAY
``THOSE GENTILES WERE CIRCUMCISE AT THAT TIME, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW COZ THEY NEVER SAW IT WHAT'S IN THERE BELOW`` :rofl:
that is why even paul and his companion is againsn't to some teachings of moises and one of that teachings is the
``cimcurcision``
AND EVEN PETER HIMSELF IS AGAINST IT
Acts 11:2
And when Kĕpha went up to Yerushalayim, those of the circumcision were contending with him,
DID YOU KNOW THAT IT IS FORBIDDEN TO A JEW TO HAVE A CONTACT
TO ANY GENTILES AT THAT TIME FOR IT WAD THEIR TRADITION!
Acts 11:3
3 saying, “You went in to uncircumcised men and ate with them!”
4 But Kĕpha began and set it forth in order, saying:
5 “I was in the city of Yapho praying. And in a trance I saw a vision, a certain vessel descending like a great sheet, let down from the heaven by four corners, and it came to me.
6 “Having looked into it, I perceived and I saw four-footed beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping creatures, and the birds of heaven.
7 “And I heard a voice saying to me, ‘Rise up, Kĕpha, slay and eat.’
8 “But I said, ‘Not at all, Master! Because whatever is common or unclean has never entered into my mouth.’
9 “And the voice answered me again from the heaven, ‘What Elohim has cleansed you do not consider common.’
10 “And this took place three times, and all were drawn up again into the heaven.
11 “And see, immediately three men stood before the house where I was, having been sent to me from Caesarea.
12 “And the Spirit said to me to go with them, not doubting at all. And these six brothers also went with me, and we went into the man’s house.
for they the early isralites, even they were the choisen people before,
they only base that teaching from flesh because god intended them to do that within the people of isralites so that they can be distinguised from other humans who worshipped other gods.
``IS THERE ANY WRITTEN SCRIPTURES COMING FROM THE HOLY BIBLE ITSELF THAT COULD TELL US
WHEN AND WHERE IN THE COMMANDMENTS OF CIRCUMCISSION EXPLAINED IT WAS REALLY A BIG DEAL TO ATTAIN THE SALVATION OF PURIFYING OUR SOULS
BY DOING IT LITERALLY IN FLESH?``
Colossians 3:11
where there is not Greek and Yehuḏite, circumcised and uncircumcised, foreigner, Scythian, slave, free, but Messiah is all, and in all.
Galatians 5:6
For in Messiah יהושע neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any strength, but belief working through love.
``PLEASE INFORM SOMEONE IF THEY WERE TOLD THAT THIS GUY IS THE MESSIAH``
Colossians 4:11
also Yeshua who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the reign of Elohim who are of the circumcision, who were to me a comfort.
IS HE? OR DOES HE?
Philippians 3:5
circumcised the eighth day, of the race of Yisra’ĕl, of the tribe of Binyamin, a Heḇrew of Heḇrews, according to Torah a Pharisee,
FOR MANY WERE DECIEVED BY THIS VERSE
MISTAKEN SOMEONE FOR SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE EASILY UNDERSTAND
WITHOUT KEEPING THE WORD OF GOD TO HIS HEART AND SOUL!!
Colossians 4:11
also Yeshua who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the reign of Elohim who are of the circumcision, who were to me a comfort.
Titus 1:10
For there are many unruly men, senseless talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,
i my self doing this as my promise to him
and im not even a jewish
please read the whole chapter and do not depend on a certain verses only if there's have doubt to any mind of a certain people.
Romans 2:1
Therefore, O man, you are without excuse, everyone who judges, for in which you judge another you condemn yourself, since you who judge practise the same wrongs.
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I just recently saw this on a church sign. They obviously don't understand the difference.
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As far as the world is concerned Christians are all legalists and I actually think they have a better grasp on the meaning of this word than we do.The fact is Christians have misused the word ''legalist'' so much that it has lost all meaning.
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I have been reading the above statements, some of you sure do write a lot of information it takes a real long time to read and if you have questions grab your bible and begin your own little study. I have a lot of questions and statements of my own in my head as I hold my bible. Of course, now I have my own understanding and/or belief. I don't understand though why people want to say I am save by grace and leave it. truly we are saved by grace, but is that all to it? Revelation 14:12 reads:
HERE IS THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS: HERE ARE THEY THAT KEEP THE COMMANDEMENTS OF GOD AND THE FATH OF JESUS.
so? is it ONLY grace that saves us or is grace the beginning?
HERE IS THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS: HERE ARE THEY THAT KEEP THE COMMANDEMENTS OF GOD AND THE FATH OF JESUS.
so? is it ONLY grace that saves us or is grace the beginning?
K
Apostle Paul states it the best way:
(Ephesians 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
He says we are saved by grace through faith, meaning only through the faith of the Lord is one under God's grace that saves, and Paul does not leave it at just that as we read on the Ephesians 4.
Apostle Paul in Ephesians 4:3-32 states how we are to keep the unity with the Holy Spirit by walking properly in the faith, and breaks down how we can and can not walk. He says those who continue to work uncleanness have not learned Christ. We are only sealed by the Holy Spirit as Paul states in verse 30 if we keep that unity.
(Ephesians 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
He says we are saved by grace through faith, meaning only through the faith of the Lord is one under God's grace that saves, and Paul does not leave it at just that as we read on the Ephesians 4.
Apostle Paul in Ephesians 4:3-32 states how we are to keep the unity with the Holy Spirit by walking properly in the faith, and breaks down how we can and can not walk. He says those who continue to work uncleanness have not learned Christ. We are only sealed by the Holy Spirit as Paul states in verse 30 if we keep that unity.
Grace saves us with nothing added. There is nothing that we could add even if we wanted to add everything we have.
Do we leave it at that? Nope it's just the beginning. The beginning of our new life in Christ. All things are new the old things are passed away. 2 Cor 5:17 The new birth is going from dead in sin and trespass to life everlasting in Christ Jesus.
Christ effects a complete change in us we do not change ourselves. We walk daily with Him by the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Those who profess biblical salvation by grace and as a gift of God do not promote living a sinful life. The more mature you become in Christ the more your sin is made plain to you and the more you strive to live closer to Christ.
The legalist strives to for themselves what only God can do. Man cannot live righteously in his own will, power and strength. Mans pride blocks him from receiving grace because he must first admit his need for Gods grace.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Do we leave it at that? Nope it's just the beginning. The beginning of our new life in Christ. All things are new the old things are passed away. 2 Cor 5:17 The new birth is going from dead in sin and trespass to life everlasting in Christ Jesus.
Christ effects a complete change in us we do not change ourselves. We walk daily with Him by the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Those who profess biblical salvation by grace and as a gift of God do not promote living a sinful life. The more mature you become in Christ the more your sin is made plain to you and the more you strive to live closer to Christ.
The legalist strives to for themselves what only God can do. Man cannot live righteously in his own will, power and strength. Mans pride blocks him from receiving grace because he must first admit his need for Gods grace.
For the cause of Christ
Roger