200 Proofs Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball Videobook By Eric Dubay

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The St. George’s Channel between Holyhead and Kingstown Harbor near Dublin is 60 miles across. When half-way across a ferry passenger will notice behind them the light on Holyhead pier as well as in front of them the Poolbeg light in Dublin Bay. The Holyhead Pier light is 44 feet high, while the Poolbeg lighthouse 68 feet, therefore a vessel in the middle of the channel, 30 miles from either side standing on a deck 24 feet above the water, can clearly see both lights. On a ball Earth 25,000 miles in circumference, however, both lights should be hidden well below both horizons by over 300 feet!
 

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The St. George’s Channel between Holyhead and Kingstown Harbor near Dublin is 60 miles across. When half-way across a ferry passenger will notice behind them the light on Holyhead pier as well as in front of them the Poolbeg light in Dublin Bay. The Holyhead Pier light is 44 feet high, while the Poolbeg lighthouse 68 feet, therefore a vessel in the middle of the channel, 30 miles from either side standing on a deck 24 feet above the water, can clearly see both lights. On a ball Earth 25,000 miles in circumference, however, both lights should be hidden well below both horizons by over 300 feet!

Seeing objects that are below the horizon has to do with the conditions that cause light refraction and not strictly the distance the object is from the point of observation.
 

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Seeing objects that are below the horizon has to do with the conditions that cause light refraction and not strictly the distance the object is from the point of observation.
Actually when you use proper math calculations you quickly find that no other explanation is needed for every one of Sperical's scenarios. The curvature of the earth is 8 inches per mile whereas the figures that Sperical is using would put that curvature at several feet per mile.
 
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I'm just glad I don't go sleepwalking any more, just in case I walk
off the edge. :p
 
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Actually when you use proper math calculations you quickly find that no other explanation is needed for every one of Sperical's scenarios. The curvature of the earth is 8 inches per mile whereas the figures that Sperical is using would put that curvature at several feet per mile.
What is interesting is the design of earth at 8 inches per mile for the number 8 represents infinity.
 
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Sorry curiosity just got the better of me and my curiosity itch needs
scratching.

So if the world is flat and the moon is flat and the sun and everything else
is flat. What is on the underside.

I mean, is it like when you cook a pancake and underneath gets browned or what.
 

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Spherical, you never answered my question. Have you ever actually travelled the world? Or is everything you think you know from your computer screen? Hey maybe that's it! Your monitor is flat - that's why the world looks flat to you!

Back away from the you-tube and go see it for yourself. You may find it interesting.
 

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Miri,

You make an excellent point. If everything is flat, what is holding it all together. Are the stars just dots of light on the inside of a big globe called the universe? Is the flat earth just floating on magma that has collected on the bottom of this globe?

If one asserts the earth is flat, one also needs to explain the rest of creation as well. For the assertion to be considered a possibility it must explain all the observed facts at least as well as the current theory.

This is why the flat earth assertion was disproven centuries before Christ.

The belief in a flat earth cannot be supported through logical rational means. It comes from the "feelings" of the person who then use their intelligence to justify the feeling.

Indeed, most of the points made in the video Spherical promotes are based on the "feelings" of the observer, such as, "The earth feels flat when I look at things, therefore, it must be flat."
 

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OnceFallen,

Thank you for the 8 inches per mile fact. That in itself "should" be enough for any "rational" person to disprove the flat earth assertion.

BTW, it is not a theory or even an hypothesis. It is not even a rational speculation. It is a delusional assertion. It may be an "innocent" delusion because the person hasn't learned any better. Or, there may be underlying reasons why the person steadfastly holds to those delusions. In the later case, generally (in my limited experience) no amount of reasoning can convince them out of their delusion. The underlying issues must be dealt with along with the irrational belief.
 

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Spherical, you never answered my question. Have you ever actually travelled the world? Or is everything you think you know from your computer screen? Hey maybe that's it! Your monitor is flat - that's why the world looks flat to you!

Back away from the you-tube and go see it for yourself. You may find it interesting.
Some monitors are also curved and that probably adds to the confusion.
 

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I would liken trying to convince someone that the earth is not flat to be like trying to reason with a drunk. What is going on in their brain has nothing to do with whatever it is that they are claiming. Trying to reason with a drunk who claims that his wife is being unfaithful is pointless.

The real problem has nothing to do with what the person is claiming. (May I smilingly suggest that many of the arguments between couples are like?)

In this case, no amount of reasoning can reach Spherical in his delusion. About all any of us can really do is earnestly pray for him. God may well want to do something great in his life.

Please pray for him.
 
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Sorry curiosity just got the better of me and my curiosity itch needs
scratching.

So if the world is flat and the moon is flat and the sun and everything else
is flat. What is on the underside.

I mean, is it like when you cook a pancake and underneath gets browned or what.
 

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The lighthouse at Port Said, Egypt, at an elevation of only 60 feet has been seen an astonishing 58 miles away, where, according to modern astronomy it should be 2,182 feet below the line of sight!

all this stuff you're gishing is totally consistent with atmospheric refraction.

according to disc-earth though, it should be visible from an 'astonishing' 5,800 miles away.

so show us pictures of the rocky mountains taken through a telescope in Maine, or go home.
show us the pictures of Great Britain taken from the US east coast.
show us pictures of Mauna Loa taken from California.

o you can't?

well that's because everything about this idea, that you treat like a god, is a lie.
& it's obvious to everyone except you & GaryA and maybe a couple of other senseless people you've managed to deceive.
 
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Water Vapor and Perspective. :cool:

[video=youtube;FDHB6aXQJMI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDHB6aXQJMI[/video]
 

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I would liken trying to convince someone that the earth is not flat to be like trying to reason with a drunk. What is going on in their brain has nothing to do with whatever it is that they are claiming. Trying to reason with a drunk who claims that his wife is being unfaithful is pointless.

The real problem has nothing to do with what the person is claiming. (May I smilingly suggest that many of the arguments between couples are like?)

In this case, no amount of reasoning can reach Spherical in his delusion. About all any of us can really do is earnestly pray for him. God may well want to do something great in his life.

Please pray for him.
God wants to do something great in all of our lives. Prayers for all.
 
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I would liken trying to convince someone that the earth is not flat to be like trying to reason with a drunk. What is going on in their brain has nothing to do with whatever it is that they are claiming. Trying to reason with a drunk who claims that his wife is being unfaithful is pointless.

The real problem has nothing to do with what the person is claiming. (May I smilingly suggest that many of the arguments between couples are like?)

In this case, no amount of reasoning can reach Spherical in his delusion. About all any of us can really do is earnestly pray for him. God may well want to do something great in his life.

Please pray for him.
I will do that. :)
 

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Thank you, Spherical.

Please understand that I have no animosity toward you. I truly do want God's best for you.
 
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[video=youtube;kx7nhnbDoHI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx7nhnbDoHI[/video]
 
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Hey spherical let's say we have only numbers to determine the earth flat or sphere... Can only use one.

0123456789 these single numbers make up all numbers

im going to use 8 is my choice

first looking at the number I see a up and down north and south circles
second turn the number on its side 90degrees and now I have right to left east and west circles
third the 8 number has something interesting it has a cross in the middle.
 
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Hey spherical let's say we have only numbers to determine the earth flat or sphere...

0123456789 these single numbers make up all numbers

im going to use 8 is my choice

first looking at the number I see a up and down north and south circles
second turn the number on its side 90degrees and now I have right to left east and west circles
third the 8 number has something interesting it has a cross in the middle.

Assuming the earth would be a globe, your north, south, east and west intersection of lines would be in the middle of the earth. On the flat earth these lines intersect on the flat plane we call earth.
 
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