When others use Gods name in vain

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Sirk! I think you are mistaken.If you profess to love Christ then wouldn't you want to defend His honour? Or maybe you are just another lukewarm pew warmer.
You would think blaspheming the Lords name would offend the indwelling spirit wouldnt you? But to some you are being too sensitive? Hmmm, perhaps the spirit is sensitive and rises up! That is what I think. Righteous anger.
 

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I also replace the F word with fudge but when I get hurt I don't always laugh off it and I find myself saying fudge me sometimes which I think is taking the fudge a bit to far
 

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I also replace the F word with fudge but when I get hurt I don't always laugh off it and I find myself saying fudge me sometimes which I think is taking the fudge a bit to far
I prefer Hot Fudge.
 
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At least he responded in a more Christ like manner than you did just now.

Look guys we don't need to go to war at each other just as we must respond as still waters to cussing and vulgar language we must also respond the same way to each other. I don't think Blue is correct about people being unlearned because they cuss and I also don't think it is our job to change ppl around us because that was never our job we dont have that kind of power only God does.

So disagreeing is going to war? Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Quit judging me! :D
Its not about changing people. I already said that. It is about letting people know that they will be judged. Sometimes they dont even realize how bad blasphemy is.
 

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I don't particularly care for it, but I also don't find it to be something worth arguing about. Sure I can probably ask them not to if they're at my house, but in public, etc. they can say what they want. I'm not the language police. I realize that not everyone shares my views, so hearing anything like that is not something that's going to surprise me in the real world.
 
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Hi all,

Just wondering what you do when someone in your company uses our Lords name in vain or as a cuss word.
It has often shocked and surprised me to even hear professing christians doing this and it angers me profoundly that in one breath they call on His name for help and aid and in the next breath dishonour him by casually using His name as an expletive.

And then there is the issue of non believers who do this.I have one such person in my life who frequently desecrates His holy name when angry, surprised or shocked but because I am trying to win her over to Christ I am not sure how I can tell her that I find this highly offensive and view it as a personal injury especially since this is the Name by which I have been saved.

And why is it that when someone injures their thumb with a hammer names such as " Hare Krishna" ," Mohammed" or " Bhudda" are exempt from being a word of derision?

Anyway, I am looking for pointers on how to confront people on this terrible sin while maintaining the balance of being firm yet still being winsome and conveying love.
Thanks!
Frankly, me, not being perfect and all, and me, fighting hard to walk with God and follow where he takes me, but failing oh so often, I simply do not find myself qualified enough in the "I'm holy" sphere of life, to tell others what they should or shouldn't do in my presence.

What? Like suddenly I'm a shining example of all things that ought to proceed out of the mouths of Man? I'm so unshiny, I'm not even sure someone can make out what's under the tarnish. I'm not sure even I can make it out.

So, just because something bothers me, I never think it's my duty to tell someone else not to do it around me. If I can't deal, I walk away. (Ex drug addict and still trying to quit a smoking addiction, so I have and will walk away, if need be.) I've got plenty to fix about myself first. And, because I have plenty to fix about myself, I really don't have the time or desire to tell others how to act around me.

To me, this is sort of like gossip. Gossip is my sin area, so I cannot partake of it. I let people know that about me, whenever it fits into the conversation. On a rare occasion, it fits in before it comes up. (Like now, for instance.) But it usually comes up when someone starts gossiping, and I get that deer-in-the-headlights reaction, so I blurt it out then. At least they aren't feeling like I'm superior to them, because it's MY problem, not theirs. If they realize it is their problem to, it's up to them to decide if they want to deal with it now or sometime in the future. I don't even bother finding out what their thinking, because the only thing I gave them is what my problem is.

In like kind. This is not anyone else's problem but yours. If you have problems with this, let people know what your problem is. If it's them, you're wrong. It's not them. It's your problem. I'm very much aware that I do have a problem with taking the Lord's name in vain. The only thing that you have given me is IF I can pull it off, I might well start saying, "Hare H. Krishna" in the future. But what I do with MY problem in sinning in this area, is NOT YOUR problem. You not accepting fellow sinners IS your problem.
 
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It's not my responsibility to change others. If cussing crosses a boundary for you when others do it, I would question whether it is a legitimate boundary or if you're just too sensitive. If it's the former then it'd be better to associate yourself with people who have pure lips.
What is it about guys that they can put stuff so clearly in so fewer words than I can?
 
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Sirk! I think you are mistaken.If you profess to love Christ then wouldn't you want to defend His honour? Or maybe you are just another lukewarm pew warmer.
Yeah. Okay. Like God is safe because we have his six!
 
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Gr8grace I think, is on the right track to what taking the Lord's name in vain means.

I heard a Pastor say that if WE call ourselves by His Name (Christians), and act in a manner that is un-Christ-like, then WE are taking His Name in Vain, and seems to me to be a much greater offense than merely saying G.. D....
I have gotten to the point when I'm saying G.D.I., I'm really asking God to damn whatever It is.

And a while ago, on this site someone suggested when saying "God bless you" after someone sneezes to stand by the strength of those words too.

I have a friend who doesn't even cuss when she smashes her finger. I find that amazing. I need the strongest words to describe the pain. "Yikes" just doesn't hit it. Body parts don't either. Sometimes I do take God's name in vain, and I immediately feel the repent again. I'm still trying to grasp that word that covers it. Being a literalist though, the choices are bad. (Getting a mother or a son involved -- just dumb sounding.)

Still working on it, but it would irritate me if one of my friends would call me on it every time. Since something just smashed into my thumb, my instinct might be to throw whatever that was at the person.

My Christian friends and hubby tend to back up, gasp, and stare, while waiting for the apology. They know me well enough that they don't expect me to apologize to them. They're over 10, so they've heard it all before. They know my red face turns to a different kind of red before apologizing to the one I really offended -- God. When I get there, they know I don't need medical attention. (At least, I trained them not to ask me if I'm alright knowing full well I'm not. That's one of my pet peeves. lol)
 
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Frankly, me, not being perfect and all, and me, fighting hard to walk with God and follow where he takes me, but failing oh so often, I simply do not find myself qualified enough in the "I'm holy" sphere of life, to tell others what they should or shouldn't do in my presence.

What? Like suddenly I'm a shining example of all things that ought to proceed out of the mouths of Man? I'm so unshiny, I'm not even sure someone can make out what's under the tarnish. I'm not sure even I can make it out.

So, just because something bothers me, I never think it's my duty to tell someone else not to do it around me. If I can't deal, I walk away. (Ex drug addict and still trying to quit a smoking addiction, so I have and will walk away, if need be.) I've got plenty to fix about myself first. And, because I have plenty to fix about myself, I really don't have the time or desire to tell others how to act around me.

To me, this is sort of like gossip. Gossip is my sin area, so I cannot partake of it. I let people know that about me, whenever it fits into the conversation. On a rare occasion, it fits in before it comes up. (Like now, for instance.) But it usually comes up when someone starts gossiping, and I get that deer-in-the-headlights reaction, so I blurt it out then. At least they aren't feeling like I'm superior to them, because it's MY problem, not theirs. If they realize it is their problem to, it's up to them to decide if they want to deal with it now or sometime in the future. I don't even bother finding out what their thinking, because the only thing I gave them is what my problem is.

In like kind. This is not anyone else's problem but yours. If you have problems with this, let people know what your problem is. If it's them, you're wrong. It's not them. It's your problem. I'm very much aware that I do have a problem with taking the Lord's name in vain. The only thing that you have given me is IF I can pull it off, I might well start saying, "Hare H. Krishna" in the future. But what I do with MY problem in sinning in this area, is NOT YOUR problem. You not accepting fellow sinners IS your problem.
What is it about guys that they can put stuff so clearly in so fewer words than I can?
Mmmm, Hunh
 
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People swear because they are ignorant, unlearned and vulgar.. jmo
Well, I may be ignorant, but I understand a good swear. I've got a college degree, so I'm not unlearned. Yup. I'm vulgar at times.

One out of three.
 
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So when I was helping the appliance guy the other day with a double oven install by taking the doors off and the little spring loaded clip that holds the door on, snapped down on my finger and gashed it opened and I said the sh word and bled all down the front of a brand new appliance....I am ignorant unlearned and vulgar?
Would you like to learn more educated swears? I can teach you.
 
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You could have substituted the S word with something different.. But you CHOSE to say the S word, instead of saying something like "ow ow ow that hurt".. So yes, that IS vulgar, unlearned and ignorant behavior. Especially when you tell others not to swear around your son, then you go and swear yourself. Irregardless of whether son was there or not..
I see no biblical evidence the the S word should never be used. After all the Bible includes something about "pisseth on the wall" and "dirty rags." If used Kotex can make it into the book, exactly how bad can bowel movement be?
 
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If you accidently cut your finger off, would you laugh? "HAHA Oh man, I cut my finger off. That's crazy stuff right there!"
Oddly enough, I might. If something totally freaks me out I either faint or laugh. (Good thing family and friends know this about me, because when it happens and they're not around, I tend to faint second simply from the blood pressure changes due to embarrassment.)
Other oddity -- I also snore when passed out.
 
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Sorry. Just released a big one. Someone turn the fan on. Hey, might as well get comfy with each other we are all brothers and sisters in christ.
 

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People swear because they are ignorant, unlearned and vulgar.. jmo
IMHO people swear for emphasis.

some of it is cultural -- if it's the language you are used to reading and hearing, it's the language you use. some people use words we don't typically think of as "profanity" in order to swear -- but it's swearing nonetheless. and it's typically for emphasis, i think.

 
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You would think blaspheming the Lords name would offend the indwelling spirit wouldnt you? But to some you are being too sensitive? Hmmm, perhaps the spirit is sensitive and rises up! That is what I think. Righteous anger.
Jesus summed up the commands with love God fully and love others. Well, we don't need to protect God, so loving him isn't protecting him. And demanding someone do something because you want it like that isn't loving anyone, so what righteous anger?