Personally I believe that some modern day evangelical beliefs are all mis-representing the Father and the work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
On one end of the same tree we have those that say being in poverty is God making us humble - then we have those that say God makes us sick to teach us things or the equally abhorrent belief that God "allows" it so He can be glorified.
That is like saying a parent "allows" someone to bring a disease on purpose on their child so that the parent can be seen by others "how good they are". That is a "sick parent" and a "sick god".
We would throw people in jail for such behavior. And yet - we somehow have more righteous moral beliefs then God does. Where do we even get this moral outrage from? - God of course - and yet we ascribe this horrible attribute to our loving Father.
I firmly believe that we are going to be horrified of the thoughts we had towards our good, loving Father when we stand before Him and see Him for who He truly is. He will wipe every one of our tears away with His loving hands.
Then we have those on the other side of the tree that say "God wants us to all be millionaires and have the biggest house in the city - live the American dream".
God says that He delights in the prosperity of His children and how He chooses to display that prosperity is up to Him. God's definition of being "rich" is an abundance to take care of things in our family with plenty left over to abound to every good work to be a blessing to others. It's the way of the kingdom of God. There is never any lack.
The term "rich" means "full supply".
Then there are those that condemn people that are sick and we can be like Job's buddies and accuse them of all kinds of nonsense. We need to have compassion on those that are sick in this world and walk with them with the faith that they do have - not to beat them up for not getting things the way that we think it should manifest in their lives and in what timing.
The truth is some of us don't have the faith to bring what grace has already provided for us in Christ. There are many areas that I simply don't have the faith for now in my life. I recognize it for what it is and I don't blame others because they do have faith in that area that I don't.
There is a way to encourage others to believe God without condemning them or believing they are condemning us just because they are speaking the truth. There are 2 sides to that tree too.
The real truth is - faith or the lack of faith was talked about by Jesus many times where He said they had little faith. Is Jesus now attacking the emotions of those that don't have faith? Or is He simply showing where their lack is and knowing this deficiency can make them pursue Him as He is the truth.
Some of us modern day believers would be ripping the Lord Jesus apart for His talks to people both corporately and individuals on having no and little faith.
We are to encourage each other in where ever we are at and not bite and devour each other because we believe differently on a subject. None of us know things as we ought to know them says Paul - but let's stop this biting and devouring each other and walk in where each of us are at now in our own walk with the Lord.
Speak of the love and grace of our Lord and the nutrients we need will be brought to us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ. We are to fix our hope completely on the grace that comes with the hearing and seeing of Jesus. 1 Peter 1:13
These 2 principles remain true for all of us.
Romans 14:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
Romans 14:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
On one end of the same tree we have those that say being in poverty is God making us humble - then we have those that say God makes us sick to teach us things or the equally abhorrent belief that God "allows" it so He can be glorified.
That is like saying a parent "allows" someone to bring a disease on purpose on their child so that the parent can be seen by others "how good they are". That is a "sick parent" and a "sick god".
We would throw people in jail for such behavior. And yet - we somehow have more righteous moral beliefs then God does. Where do we even get this moral outrage from? - God of course - and yet we ascribe this horrible attribute to our loving Father.
I firmly believe that we are going to be horrified of the thoughts we had towards our good, loving Father when we stand before Him and see Him for who He truly is. He will wipe every one of our tears away with His loving hands.
Then we have those on the other side of the tree that say "God wants us to all be millionaires and have the biggest house in the city - live the American dream".
God says that He delights in the prosperity of His children and how He chooses to display that prosperity is up to Him. God's definition of being "rich" is an abundance to take care of things in our family with plenty left over to abound to every good work to be a blessing to others. It's the way of the kingdom of God. There is never any lack.
The term "rich" means "full supply".
Then there are those that condemn people that are sick and we can be like Job's buddies and accuse them of all kinds of nonsense. We need to have compassion on those that are sick in this world and walk with them with the faith that they do have - not to beat them up for not getting things the way that we think it should manifest in their lives and in what timing.
The truth is some of us don't have the faith to bring what grace has already provided for us in Christ. There are many areas that I simply don't have the faith for now in my life. I recognize it for what it is and I don't blame others because they do have faith in that area that I don't.
There is a way to encourage others to believe God without condemning them or believing they are condemning us just because they are speaking the truth. There are 2 sides to that tree too.
The real truth is - faith or the lack of faith was talked about by Jesus many times where He said they had little faith. Is Jesus now attacking the emotions of those that don't have faith? Or is He simply showing where their lack is and knowing this deficiency can make them pursue Him as He is the truth.
Some of us modern day believers would be ripping the Lord Jesus apart for His talks to people both corporately and individuals on having no and little faith.
We are to encourage each other in where ever we are at and not bite and devour each other because we believe differently on a subject. None of us know things as we ought to know them says Paul - but let's stop this biting and devouring each other and walk in where each of us are at now in our own walk with the Lord.
Speak of the love and grace of our Lord and the nutrients we need will be brought to us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ. We are to fix our hope completely on the grace that comes with the hearing and seeing of Jesus. 1 Peter 1:13
These 2 principles remain true for all of us.
Romans 14:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
Romans 14:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
I was happily reading your post till I got to paragraph 10. Then I got a bit confused.
So are you saying that, yes, some don't have enough faith to be healed?