Why do you hate Muslims? (Yes, I'm aware this only applies to some people on here.)

[kaylagrl]

Exactly!

God commands His people to kill, to wipe out entire nations.
My point is, that does not make the bible evil.
Nor does it mean Christians today go about killing (well, some do, but not Christianity as a whole)
So why do people assume all Muslims do because THEIR book has such parts in it when they don't assume Christians do?

If you were to take verses of the OT out of context surely we would look just like what people think of Islam no?

No,people have a misunderstanding of the Quran. The Quran and the Hadith taken together talk more of jihad,killing and violence than it talks of anything else. These "holy books" do not teach Muslims how to be better people,how to treat their neighbors as the Bible teaches us. No the majority of these books talk about jihad,the infidel and violence.And the violence and jihad is future tense,where as the Bible speaks of wars that happened and God bringing justice against tribes that attacked the Jews,the Quran talks of future jihad,killing and violence.The Bible does not.There is no comparison and this is the problem,Christians dont know these things and think Islam is comparable to the Bible,and it is not,not in any way.

 

[Jimbone]

No,people have a misunderstanding of the Quran. The Quran and the Hadith taken together talk more of jihad,killing and violence than it talks of anything else. These "holy books" do not teach Muslims how to be better people,how to treat their neighbors as the Bible teaches us. No the majority of these books talk about jihad,the infidel and violence.And the violence and jihad is future tense,where as the Bible speaks of wars that happened and God bringing justice against tribes that attacked the Jews,the Quran talks of future jihad,killing and violence.The Bible does not.There is no comparison and this is the problem,Christians dont know these things and think Islam is comparable to the Bible,and it is not,not in any way.

Agreed, and also God telling a specific group of people to take out another very specific group of people at a very specific time, is in no way at all comparable to the Quran commanding all believers (Muslims) of all times to do these things, these commands are not even close to being the same thing at all.

 

[gb9]

No,people have a misunderstanding of the Quran. The Quran and the Hadith taken together talk more of jihad,killing and violence than it talks of anything else. These "holy books" do not teach Muslims how to be better people,how to treat their neighbors as the Bible teaches us. No the majority of these books talk about jihad,the infidel and violence.And the violence and jihad is future tense,where as the Bible speaks of wars that happened and God bringing justice against tribes that attacked the Jews,the Quran talks of future jihad,killing and violence.The Bible does not.There is no comparison and this is the problem,Christians dont know these things and think Islam is comparable to the Bible,and it is not,not in any way.

and, since most people will not look any of these truths up, and the main stream media certainly will not ever do a story on it, the muslim deception will continue........

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

To all the Muslims who sent me messages pointing out that we should not judge Islam by the actions of Muslims? Thank you for the comments, I agree with you completely. We don't judge religions by their adherents. We judge religions by their central figures and teachings.

^This : p

Im tempted to make this my new signature, haha : p I really like David Wood.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

From what I know, you are born Muslim the same way you are born a Jew. Faith / doctrine or not.

Islam is a faith, their creed is "there is no god but allah, and muhammad is his messenger", anyone can become a Muslim by repeating that creed. Anyone can choose to become a Muslim and anyone can choose to leave Islam.
Though, sadly, according to Muhammad there are consequences for leaving Islam. You can hear stories of Christians in Islamic countries who have left Islam who are afraid to tell anyone that they have come to Christ.

How to become a Muslim - convert to Islam , shahadah
(*EDIT: Im only posting that for educational purposes, in no way should anybody consider converting to Islam.
Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6)

No,people have a misunderstanding of the Quran. The Quran and the Hadith taken together talk more of jihad,killing and violence than it talks of anything else. These "holy books" do not teach Muslims how to be better people,how to treat their neighbors as the Bible teaches us. No the majority of these books talk about jihad,the infidel and violence.And the violence and jihad is future tense,where as the Bible speaks of wars that happened and God bringing justice against tribes that attacked the Jews,the Quran talks of future jihad,killing and violence.The Bible does not.There is no comparison and this is the problem,Christians dont know these things and think Islam is comparable to the Bible,and it is not,not in any way.

Yeah. Magenta posted it here a few days ago, most people know nothing of Islam and just assume its like any other "religion", like as if its just like Christianity. It has some nice sounding verses, some not so nice sounding verses, and it all just depends on context.
Its really not at all like Christianity : p

 

[Magenta]

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[TD="align: center"]Differences Between Islamic Teaching and Christianity[/TD]
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[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]The Quran[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]The Bible[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]External sources (the Hadith and Sira)
necessary for translating the Qur'an[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Historical context contained
within the text of the Bible[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Must know Arabic in order to "fully understand"
the Qur'an (according to Muslim apologists)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Universal. Can be translated into other languages without excessive commentary.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Chronological progression of the
Quran is from peace to violence.[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Chronological progression of the
Bible is from violence to peace.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]The words 'torture' and 'punishment' appear six times
more often in the Qur'an than in the New Testament.[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]The word 'love' appears five times more often in the New Testament than than in the Quran,[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Contains not a single original moral value.[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]The 'Sermon on the Mount' and others.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Suffering is an excuse for violent revenge
and establishment of Islam by force"And slay them
wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places
whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims]
is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them
until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
(Quran 2:191)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Suffering builds character"We also rejoice in our sufferings,
because we know that suffering
produces perseverance; perseverance,
character; and character, hope"
(Romans 5:4)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Emphasis on this World"And Allah has made
you heirs to their land and their dwellings and
their property" (Quran 33:27)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Emphasis on the Next"Mine is not a kingdom of this world"
(John 18:36, see also Luke 14:33)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Kill, convert or subjugate Christians and Jews.
(Quran 9:29)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Share one's faith with gentleness and respect.
(1 Peter 3:15)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Martyrs as Killers

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons
and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden
(of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain"
(Quran 9:111)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Martyrs as Martyrs

"As it is written, For thy sake we are
killed all the day long; we are
counted as sheep for the slaughter"
(Romans 8:36)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Killing Apostates

"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do,
and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take
not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way
of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades,
seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
(Quran 4:89, also Bukhari 52:260, 83:37...)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Letting God Judge Apostates

"For we know Him that has said,
'Vengeance belongs unto me, I will
recompense,' says the Lord. And again,
'The Lord shall judge his people'"
(Hebrews 10:25-30)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Punishment"Let not compassion move you
from carrying out God's law..."
(Quran 24:2)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Mercy"Love is patient. Love is kind...
It keeps no record of wrongs"
(1 Corinthians 13:4-5)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Charity and Non-Believers Mercy toward
fellow Muslims - ruthlessness toward unbelievers.
Muslims are warned not to befriend those outside the faith. They must even ensure that their charity tithe (zakat) stays within their own identity group.
(Quran 48:29, 3:28, Sharia)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Charity and Non-BelieversChristians are specifically told that even
those who hate them are entitled to
kindness and charity. They should be loved
and cared for as surely as any fellow believer.
(Mark 10:25-37)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]The Qur'an explicitly instructs men to
beat disobedient wives - as a last resort.
(Quran 4:34, Sahih Muslim 2127)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]"Husbands, love your wives and
do not be harsh with them."
(No permission to beat women)
(Colossians 3:19)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Explicitly allows Muslim men to rape their female
slaves, even those already married.
(Quran 4:24, 70:29-30, 23:5-6...)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Tells masters and slaves to serve
each other as if serving God.
(Ephesians 6:7-9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those who are with him
are ruthless to the unbelievers"
(Quran 48:29)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]"Do good to them that hate you"
(Luke 6:27)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Allah wills unbelievers to stray and be lost
(Quran 16:93)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]God wants all people saved
(1 Timothy 2:4)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Warns Against Questioning Faith.
(Quran 5:101-102)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Welcomes Intellectual Challenge.
(1 Peter 3:15)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Violence as Virtue"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye
dislike it. But it is possible that ye
dislike a thing which is good for you, and
that ye love a thing which is bad for you.
But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
(Quran 2:216)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Violence as Sin"Do not take revenge, my friends, but
leave room for God's wrath, for it is written:
'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord. On the contrary: 'If your enemy
is hungry, feed him... '"
(Romans 12:19-20)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Hell for unbelief.
Good deeds count for naught
(Quran 18:102-107)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Hell for bad deeds and the
failure to do what is right
(Romans 2:6-8, Matthew 16:27, Matthew 25:41-45)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Judging"Strive against the disbelievers and
the hypocrites! Be harsh with them..."
(Quran 9:73)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Judge Not"For when you pass judgment on another person, you condemn yourself..."
(Romans 2:1)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Taking wealth from others"Allah promiseth
you much booty that ye will capture..."
(Quran 48:20)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Working for and giving wealth to others"The thief must no longer steal but must
work hard and do what is good with his
own hands, so that he might have
something to give to the needy."
(Ephesians 4:28)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Calls down Allah's curse on Christians
and those of other religions.
(Quran 9:30)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Calls down God's blessing on
those who curse Christians.
(Matthew 5:44)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]Arrogance & Privilege
"Ye are the best of peoples,
evolved for mankind"
(Quran 3:110)
[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Humility & Servitude"If anyone wants to be first, he must make himself last of all and servant of all."
(Mark 9:35)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]"O you who believe! do not take My
enemy and your enemy for friends:
Would you offer them love while they deny
what has come to you of the truth?
(Quran 60:1)[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]"Love your enemies..."
(Luke 6:27)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

 

[Tommy379]

From what I know, you are born Muslim the same way you are born a Jew. Faith / doctrine or not.

You don't know much then.

 

[Tommy379]

You don't know much then.

The notion that people are born muslim, is just a leftist attempt to bring muslims into racial politics.

 

[Willie-T]

The notion that people are born muslim, is just a leftist attempt to bring muslims into racial politics.

Easy, Tom. Take a breath. I think that would be a pretty common assumption since they all come from the same sort of religious background over there.

 

[Magenta]

You don't know much then.

That is true in part, because Jewish denotes ethnicity and nationality, whereas Muslim does not, despite all the ridiculous claims of one being a racist if they stand against the Satanic system known as the religion of Islam. However, if one is born of a Muslim father, they are considered to be Muslim by other Muslims, who may commit taqiyya and say there is no compulsion in religion (as if the child is free to choose), while their book instructs them to kill infidels (those who depart the faith).

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[NoNameMcgee]

Easy, Tom. Take a breath. I think that would be a pretty common assumption since they all come from the same sort of religious background over there.

ya and sooooome people make pretty crazy assumptions off very little


just playin man


whoooa youre 72?
i only looked at your pic before

never your age

 

[oldethennew]

yeah, nnm,

willie is, and I don't like to say this, but, he IS really OLD...and WISE!!!

 

[Magenta]

Agreed, and also God telling a specific group of people to take out another very specific group of people at a very specific time, is in no way at all comparable to the Quran commanding all believers (Muslims) of all times to do these things, these commands are not even close to being the same thing at all.

This is so true, and yet we have supposed Christians who will continue to make the comparison as if there is any logic or truth in it. In other words, people who are nonsensical, making statements devoid of any value but misleading enough to deceive the unwary, while they discredit Scriptures. If they do not understand Scripture, it is possible they are not even Christian.

 

[Magenta]

Magenta, this is the best comparison I have ever seen, fantastic.

Thank you Peter, and you are welcome

The credit goes to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

They have some fabulous information compiled there

 

[Willie-T]

ya and sooooome people make pretty crazy assumptions off very little


just playin man


whoooa youre 72?
i only looked at your pic before

never your age

That's why I said I'm really not too much into insulting or offending you. I honestly don't care that much. I usually just state what I think I see, and that's about all I care to do.

 

[Willie-T]

ya and sooooome people make pretty crazy assumptions off very little


just playin man


whoooa youre 72?
i only looked at your pic before

never your age

You might be surprised how much is often revealed when you think you are "saying" very little.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

You might be surprised how much is often revealed when you think you are "saying" very little.

i can agree with that, definitely times when people look far too deep into something or put their own twist into it with their weird imaginations

but Matthew 12:34

34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

words arent to be thrown around lightly

im only recently learning to control myself in this reguard

 

[imfinallyfree]

Why do people forget that us Christians did the same stuff that the Muslims are doing in our conquest of the world?

We literally boiled humans alive to convert them to our beliefs,my elderly relatives remember being beaten for speaking their own language.

 

[Magenta]

Why do people forget that us Christians did the same stuff that the Muslims are doing in our conquest of the world?

We literally boiled humans alive to convert them to our beliefs,my elderly relatives remember being beaten for speaking their own language.

Nobody forgets. We did this? No, someone in the past did those horrible things. Are we as Christians told in our Holy Book to do such things? No, we most definitely are NOT instructed in our Scriptures to do any such thing! Don't get confused and think that Christians doing horrible things in any way equates to Muslims doing the very things their books instruct them to do. It is not so fine a point it needs to be kept being made, is it? Can you really not see the difference?

 

[Magenta]

and, since most people will not look any of these truths up, and the main stream media certainly will not ever do a story on it, the muslim deception will continue........

Which is why getting the truth out is so important, despite the haters