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Once there was a girl with whom I shared the Word and joy of Jesus Christ. She was not what you could call a believer. She was a dealer in drugs, recreational, though to me all are hard drugs.
I was frinds with her brother at my University, in Illinois. When I was in Boulder, Colo, his sister was there living with a couple of other shady folks. I went to visit her one day, and her friends, when I asked where she was, replied in their druggy way, "She blew up." What I asked, the oven blew up in her face and she is in the hospital er..
The following day I was able to see her at her home. We were talking and looking at her, I was prayer thinking Jesus way saying, Jesus, she looks awful will You do something?." The following day I saw her again, and all of her burns were gone. Sheknow I was what she called a Jesus-freak, and she asked, "J, did you pray for me?.2 I sheepishlly nodded my had and said give all glory to Jesus Christ.
The point here is, there was no contact, no laying of hands, just an honest request answered by our Master.......He will hear anyone if He heard me.
I was graced with other experiences by with tactile contact.......no matter, our Savior hears us, praise Him all blessing power and glory to Him, amen.
I was frinds with her brother at my University, in Illinois. When I was in Boulder, Colo, his sister was there living with a couple of other shady folks. I went to visit her one day, and her friends, when I asked where she was, replied in their druggy way, "She blew up." What I asked, the oven blew up in her face and she is in the hospital er..
The following day I was able to see her at her home. We were talking and looking at her, I was prayer thinking Jesus way saying, Jesus, she looks awful will You do something?." The following day I saw her again, and all of her burns were gone. Sheknow I was what she called a Jesus-freak, and she asked, "J, did you pray for me?.2 I sheepishlly nodded my had and said give all glory to Jesus Christ.
The point here is, there was no contact, no laying of hands, just an honest request answered by our Master.......He will hear anyone if He heard me.
I was graced with other experiences by with tactile contact.......no matter, our Savior hears us, praise Him all blessing power and glory to Him, amen.
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Thanks PennEd
I wonder if that is actually noticed by those who believe in healing in the atonement ...physical healing
physical healing IS provided for, but Jesus had to die for our sins...I don't know how many times I have pointed that out now and yet it is so obvious
there is healing in both testaments and we are told to pray for healing in the new...come to think of it, that is how folks got healed in the old as well
huh
I wonder if that is actually noticed by those who believe in healing in the atonement ...physical healing
physical healing IS provided for, but Jesus had to die for our sins...I don't know how many times I have pointed that out now and yet it is so obvious
there is healing in both testaments and we are told to pray for healing in the new...come to think of it, that is how folks got healed in the old as well
huh
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I would utterly reject this response
God has mercifully ALREADY told us what to do regarding healing
this is just nonsense that you type and I do not believe God told you ANY of it but I fully believe that YOU believe He did
seems you think God is vengeful to his people and smacks them when they reject your doctrine
this, is why I have so little respect for what you post and, I suspect, why you dislike me as much as you do and try to innsinuate things about me that are not true
God knows who I am...I am not your business
however, when I see this type of garbage and someone saying God told them to say it? I butt in cause God Almighty did NOT tell you to say this whatsoever
you should know....I am very well acquainted with people who operate like you do...controlling, abusive and demanding respect you do not deserve
God has mercifully ALREADY told us what to do regarding healing
this is just nonsense that you type and I do not believe God told you ANY of it but I fully believe that YOU believe He did
seems you think God is vengeful to his people and smacks them when they reject your doctrine
this, is why I have so little respect for what you post and, I suspect, why you dislike me as much as you do and try to innsinuate things about me that are not true
God knows who I am...I am not your business
however, when I see this type of garbage and someone saying God told them to say it? I butt in cause God Almighty did NOT tell you to say this whatsoever
you should know....I am very well acquainted with people who operate like you do...controlling, abusive and demanding respect you do not deserve
You speak a little too cryptically, but if I'm understanding what you wrote here properly, you are basically saying what so many of us have been saying.
I mean you can't heal because you don't have faith? or is it because God's Will is for ONLY certain people to be healed. This is getting stranger and stranger.
I'm glad you agree we should not PRESUME He will heal all.
I mean you can't heal because you don't have faith? or is it because God's Will is for ONLY certain people to be healed. This is getting stranger and stranger.
I'm glad you agree we should not PRESUME He will heal all.
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if someone posts something and says it is from God, then they are saying they are answering prophetically
if they then deny that, we need to understand that if someone says 'God told me to say such and such or I asked God and He gave me such and such for an answer' then they are saying they are prophetic
simple
if they then deny that, we need to understand that if someone says 'God told me to say such and such or I asked God and He gave me such and such for an answer' then they are saying they are prophetic
simple
There IS the spiritual gift of healing. And God disperses the gifts as He will. I suspect He tells those with this gift where to go and what to do, but I don't know. I haven't been given the gift. But I know a charlatan when I hear one, claiming to have the gift while simultaneously shredding scripture and making crap up.
I've posted several times about how we see the scriptures, how we view God. And this poem was given concerning this very thing.
[h=3]Unlocked sight![/h]
Who do we see when we look on Him
Son of God, or son of men?
Saviour.. Lord.. or King to rule?
Puppet? for our strings to pull?
How we see is how we'll move
How we hear, our hearts will groove
the path of life for us to take;
This path of life decides our fate.
Will it lead us to the truth
of why He came...why He was birthed
in human form, yet not of earth?
This..... we must see..
Truth is simple, yet complex
Many stumble...many vexed
It's only those who see their need
of blood to purge out sinful deeds.
For sin is in the heart of man
But many...on their pride will stand.
and those who cannot humble be?
Great loss, regret, heaped then on thee.
For then we see Him in His glory
Love pours out of Heavens story
Why wait then to bow the knee?
For faith is what gives eyes to see.
We see salvation as saved from sin. Inability to be anything but saved by the blood of Jesus This is foundational truth. There is nothing else that guarantees heaven or entrance into heaven. This is a wonderful gift that Father has given us in His sacrifice. It is Passover. But, theres debates concerning this here on the forums.
So we go through Jesus for anything we receive.
Our walk should be building on the foundation. We take heed to how we build. Will we build based on truth? We find then that truth is a person. So in finding out His will for anything, we look to Jesus. Whatever He did is the truth that we follow in His written Word.
He is also the way. His way was to put down anything that would deter Him from His call. He fought temptation, and lies of the enemy. Overthrew him in the wilderness. Not so with Israel. They fell in the wilderness. It took a new generation to enter the promise. You want to know why the first church fizzled out so to speak? Look to the Word. Have you fought tooth and nail of the serpent? No fingers pointed. I look at myself only to judge. Just asking a question to consider.
Hes the life! His very blood is life, and is eternal in the heavens, but also on the earth where spilled.
Here is where I spoke before about communion. Is it just symbolic as churches mostly teach? Or is there actually an exchange by faith to receive His life? And His health?
This is what I would give to one who is sick. And if I hear, lay hands, I lay hands. If not? Not. For I'm not a prophet nor an apostle. There are true prophets and apostles. Both move in miracles.
I will tell you this truthfully. My neighbor who became a close friend, was in the hospital suffering terribly from lung cancer. This was about 15 years ago. What she was going through was so horrible. I knew it as a nurse who suctioned many people. And saw the sufferings of them all.
I asked another friend who has unusual faith to go with me to pray for her. As I was about to lay hands on her, Holy Spirit spoke in my spirit, and said, "I'm taking her home".
So yes, PennEd, when He speaks it's His will. Because of this fact....Jesus only did, and said, what He heard and saw.
She was ready to go home. It was what she wanted. In the state she was in, I can't blame her. Nor would I ever condemn her as having not enough faith. Not do I condemn anyone here nor judge a lack of faith. I would however, ask the question, have you given up..? But, not ever meant to be as a judgement.
The rhema Word is what we live by. Until we hear or see. We trust His written word. And we search and seek in the written Word to know Him as He is. Jesus, the same, yesterday, today and forever.
Ive said, I'm faith in His Word.
Have you asked about your friends child? If so, what have you heard?
This one last thing I want to say. We can be easily misunderstood here on the forums as to what actually someone is saying. And I can do the same. I would think that when we come to know one another it would be easier to give grace to each other.
But, suspicion seems to be reigning here. And that is not discerning of spirits.
[h=3]Unlocked sight![/h]
Who do we see when we look on Him
Son of God, or son of men?
Saviour.. Lord.. or King to rule?
Puppet? for our strings to pull?
How we see is how we'll move
How we hear, our hearts will groove
the path of life for us to take;
This path of life decides our fate.
Will it lead us to the truth
of why He came...why He was birthed
in human form, yet not of earth?
This..... we must see..
Truth is simple, yet complex
Many stumble...many vexed
It's only those who see their need
of blood to purge out sinful deeds.
For sin is in the heart of man
But many...on their pride will stand.
and those who cannot humble be?
Great loss, regret, heaped then on thee.
For then we see Him in His glory
Love pours out of Heavens story
Why wait then to bow the knee?
For faith is what gives eyes to see.
We see salvation as saved from sin. Inability to be anything but saved by the blood of Jesus This is foundational truth. There is nothing else that guarantees heaven or entrance into heaven. This is a wonderful gift that Father has given us in His sacrifice. It is Passover. But, theres debates concerning this here on the forums.
So we go through Jesus for anything we receive.
Our walk should be building on the foundation. We take heed to how we build. Will we build based on truth? We find then that truth is a person. So in finding out His will for anything, we look to Jesus. Whatever He did is the truth that we follow in His written Word.
He is also the way. His way was to put down anything that would deter Him from His call. He fought temptation, and lies of the enemy. Overthrew him in the wilderness. Not so with Israel. They fell in the wilderness. It took a new generation to enter the promise. You want to know why the first church fizzled out so to speak? Look to the Word. Have you fought tooth and nail of the serpent? No fingers pointed. I look at myself only to judge. Just asking a question to consider.
Hes the life! His very blood is life, and is eternal in the heavens, but also on the earth where spilled.
Here is where I spoke before about communion. Is it just symbolic as churches mostly teach? Or is there actually an exchange by faith to receive His life? And His health?
This is what I would give to one who is sick. And if I hear, lay hands, I lay hands. If not? Not. For I'm not a prophet nor an apostle. There are true prophets and apostles. Both move in miracles.
I will tell you this truthfully. My neighbor who became a close friend, was in the hospital suffering terribly from lung cancer. This was about 15 years ago. What she was going through was so horrible. I knew it as a nurse who suctioned many people. And saw the sufferings of them all.
I asked another friend who has unusual faith to go with me to pray for her. As I was about to lay hands on her, Holy Spirit spoke in my spirit, and said, "I'm taking her home".
So yes, PennEd, when He speaks it's His will. Because of this fact....Jesus only did, and said, what He heard and saw.
She was ready to go home. It was what she wanted. In the state she was in, I can't blame her. Nor would I ever condemn her as having not enough faith. Not do I condemn anyone here nor judge a lack of faith. I would however, ask the question, have you given up..? But, not ever meant to be as a judgement.
The rhema Word is what we live by. Until we hear or see. We trust His written word. And we search and seek in the written Word to know Him as He is. Jesus, the same, yesterday, today and forever.
Ive said, I'm faith in His Word.
Have you asked about your friends child? If so, what have you heard?
This one last thing I want to say. We can be easily misunderstood here on the forums as to what actually someone is saying. And I can do the same. I would think that when we come to know one another it would be easier to give grace to each other.
But, suspicion seems to be reigning here. And that is not discerning of spirits.
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how about you simply admit God did not have you say anything and the verses...very inapropriate and hurtful...were just you advertising what you believe once again?
now you are appearing to say that you wrote a poem that illustrates points of view
listen....the truth was delivered once for all...we don't operate by revelation or even prophecies
we operate by every word that comes from God and is WRITTEN
that is how Jesus dealt...each time confronted by the devil...Jesus said 'IT IS WRITTEN'
I do believe in the prophetic...but that comes secondary to the word and does not disagree with the word
your poem is simply that...something you wrote and does not supercede nor give better understanding to the Bible
I totally disagree with your doctrine which sounds so much like NAR I find it hard to believe that you say you are not a part of that movement
now you are appearing to say that you wrote a poem that illustrates points of view
listen....the truth was delivered once for all...we don't operate by revelation or even prophecies
we operate by every word that comes from God and is WRITTEN
that is how Jesus dealt...each time confronted by the devil...Jesus said 'IT IS WRITTEN'
I do believe in the prophetic...but that comes secondary to the word and does not disagree with the word
your poem is simply that...something you wrote and does not supercede nor give better understanding to the Bible
I totally disagree with your doctrine which sounds so much like NAR I find it hard to believe that you say you are not a part of that movement