1. I believe in the doctrine of election. Just not your view of it
2. Funny how in this long rant. You did not directly respond to what you gave me a red X for. And show how what I said was wrong. (Which I am used to)
3. Salvation is a gift. Thank you. I realy want to thank you for agreeing with me that the gift in eph 2 8-9 is salvation. And not faith. It is THROUGH faith we are saved. And that salvation is a gift.
4. Predestination is the basis of our hope. If I have no hope of eternal life. I have no faith. If I have no hope that in the end, I will be in heaven and not in hell where I belong, then I can have no faith. Faith is the substance of things hoped for. The evidence of things not seen.
5. Faith is NOT a work. Again (since you continually refuse to answer) how in Gods name can my trust of someone else to save me when I am totally unable to save myself a work? You have works on your mind. And are so afraid to even think you might be saving yourself you can not see the truth
6. Once again. John 1-6 shows it is to those who RECIEVE, who BELIEVE, who ASK, who EAT, who DRINK, who CHEW that are given the gift of life. (those are the apostle johns and Jesus words not mine)
As I said before You are my brother. Sadly, you can not be like my brother Grandpa. You seem to be on some mission to attack anyone who does not agree with your fatalistic view of savation wrong. No matter what they say
You and I both believe we ar saved by grace through faith. And this salvation is eternal. You and I both believe we have been reconciled to God. You and I both believe we have eternal security in CHrist. And alongside our brother Grandpa. You and I will be laughing at how foolish we ar with these debates when we meet in heaven.
I pray for you my friend. Stop listening to your fatalistic hebrew roots sister icedaisy, and for once in our conversations try to listen to what I am saying and stop taking me so personal.
She claims I am not your brother because she did not believe I believed in Eternal security like you do. A fact she denies to this day. She can deny it all she wants, She continues to hurt her own testimony the longer she denies it.
My God says he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.. Lets all seek His grace and not seek to boat because we are afraid to admit we made a mistake.
Or continue in this path of division because of things we were taught growing up.
2. Funny how in this long rant. You did not directly respond to what you gave me a red X for. And show how what I said was wrong. (Which I am used to)
3. Salvation is a gift. Thank you. I realy want to thank you for agreeing with me that the gift in eph 2 8-9 is salvation. And not faith. It is THROUGH faith we are saved. And that salvation is a gift.
4. Predestination is the basis of our hope. If I have no hope of eternal life. I have no faith. If I have no hope that in the end, I will be in heaven and not in hell where I belong, then I can have no faith. Faith is the substance of things hoped for. The evidence of things not seen.
5. Faith is NOT a work. Again (since you continually refuse to answer) how in Gods name can my trust of someone else to save me when I am totally unable to save myself a work? You have works on your mind. And are so afraid to even think you might be saving yourself you can not see the truth
6. Once again. John 1-6 shows it is to those who RECIEVE, who BELIEVE, who ASK, who EAT, who DRINK, who CHEW that are given the gift of life. (those are the apostle johns and Jesus words not mine)
As I said before You are my brother. Sadly, you can not be like my brother Grandpa. You seem to be on some mission to attack anyone who does not agree with your fatalistic view of savation wrong. No matter what they say
You and I both believe we ar saved by grace through faith. And this salvation is eternal. You and I both believe we have been reconciled to God. You and I both believe we have eternal security in CHrist. And alongside our brother Grandpa. You and I will be laughing at how foolish we ar with these debates when we meet in heaven.
I pray for you my friend. Stop listening to your fatalistic hebrew roots sister icedaisy, and for once in our conversations try to listen to what I am saying and stop taking me so personal.
She claims I am not your brother because she did not believe I believed in Eternal security like you do. A fact she denies to this day. She can deny it all she wants, She continues to hurt her own testimony the longer she denies it.
My God says he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.. Lets all seek His grace and not seek to boat because we are afraid to admit we made a mistake.
Or continue in this path of division because of things we were taught growing up.
If you or anyone here makes the slanderous claims after this that I am HR or Calvinist, they're liars! And the truth is not in them.
Now that we're clear.