There isnt anything in the bible that says all of it has ceased. Coz all of it HASNT ceased.
Thats the point dude. I'm not saying spiritual gifts have ceased. I'm saying Apostolic miraculous events are not seen in the real world anymore when others claim that they are.
So the only thing left to do is prove that they are not seen, and to prove the difference between claimed miraculous events and the biblical kind.
Ok.
So.
Crossfire says spiritual gifts haven't ceased.
Strangelove says spiritual gifts haven't ceased.
Strangelove draws a distinction between apostolic miracles and spiritual gifts.
But even IF there is a distinction, that doesn't mean tongues have ceased. There were plenty of non-apostles in corinth who spoke in tongues.
Strangelove can you show me the distinction you have between apostolic miraculous events and spiritual gifts?
Because if you believe spiritual gifts still exist..ie 1 corinthians 12 and 14, then I don't see where your disagreement with crossfire comes from.