God doesn't seem to really care.

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I didn't feel God's presence for a very long time either. It took a lot of faith and willingness on my part to take a chance. I completely opened myself to Him and asked Him into my life. The feelings that I had at that moment are almost indescribable. I was filled with so much love, peace, joy, contentment. And that feeling has stayed with me ever since.

I have no physical proof for you. I can only tell you that I know deep in my heart and my soul that God is real. His love is like no other love you have ever felt. It is like the air, you cannot see it but you can feel it. It is the same with God. I cannot see Him but I can feel Him in my life every day.
I see... opening first snd feeling later seems impossible for me... at least at this point and for the forseeable future.
 

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So... i guess i havta give up porn... xD
once you believe, that will be between God and you, I personally did, by God faithfulness on his continuous love in spite of me being selfish, and I made the free choice to give it up, and gave it to God to trust God. And this is not to parade me around at all, I trust God all in all. I saw no benefit in it anymore after belief, yet it took along time for me to see differently
When I agreed with God that something I did that was harmful I stopped through trusting God in agreement, never been forced to stop anything
That is what is so amazing about God over people
 

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Sure its ok if you pray. and thanks for the post. it made me feel a bit better.
If there is anything I can do to help you, please feel free to ask. I am not here to judge you or tell you that you are stupid for not believing the way I do. I am happy that you are here and asking questions. That tells me there is a chance that you will come to know Christ. All I want it to help you. Even if you choose not to believe, I will still pray for you and be here if you need/want someone to talk to.
 
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That is wise Sister wise as anything could ever be, The things bad that have happened and might still happen are not from God. These things are from selfish people that can't care less for you personally. There are many of these type that claim to know God and do not.
I am thanking God right now for God's protection for you right now from all the evil that has been besetting you. Father protect her from the evil, thank you Father, and be still and know that God does love you, while others do not even if they claim to know God
Well this is awkward...
 

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Well i dont use it to hurt anyone. so that he should require me to give it up (or anything i do that does not hurt others, like swearing) well thats not very reasonable...
Not all things are beneficial, yet all things are permissable, this decision is between God and you. This is where flesh gets in the way of others and creates garbage where people come to not beleive
 

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@ homwardbound, Arcynaculr is a guy, not a girl. I think the avatar may have confused you.
 

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I see... opening first snd feeling later seems impossible for me... at least at this point and for the forseeable future.
For me, it was opening first and feeling almost immediately. I pray that you will one day take the chance and welcome Him in.
 
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not loving neighbor as self nor God who loves you. Hitler does he deserve Hell?
What about people who never really intentionally hurt anyone and love and try to help others as much as possible but they are not christian?
Do they deserve/go to hell simply because they were not christian?
I find it hard to believe a loving god would be so petty. and i certainly hope thats not the case.
 
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Not all things are beneficial, yet all things are permissable, this decision is between God and you. This is where flesh gets in the way of others and creates garbage where people come to not beleive
So... to get close with your god he requires not only one to not hurt others but also discard certain things you do, even though the act of viewing or participating by choice, is ultimately harmless?
 
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@ homwardbound, Arcynaculr is a guy, not a girl. I think the avatar may have confused you.
Well my avatar is a guy, although could be mistaken for a girl... the pic in my signature is a girl... and my profile pic is a guy...

Just sayin lol
 
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If god really cared about each and every one of us so much, then why did he create us in the first place when he knew that so many would not choose him and end up going to hell? I mean it's just evil to create something that you know will destroy itself... better to not create something at all than create something that will just destroy itself.

Of course if he created something, he would have to let it have free will but if the result of free will is self-destruction then he should not have created anything at all. Then there would be no people suffering in hell. There would never have been anything. All this could have been avoided, if god would have cared enough to restrain himself from creating.
Hi, I have a question for you.
Do you have kids?

If so, when you decided to have them. Did you know it was a possibility they might grow up and reject you and all the things you've done for them?

God loves the genuine love of intelligent and selfless creatures.
Robotic programming or obedience out of fear wouldn't be true love for the God of Love.

Saying that God shouldn't create because some people would choose to follow the devil into the Lake of fire prepared for him and his angels is preposterous.

No human will receive the reward of fire and brimstone that didn't choose it.

I for one am grateful for a chance at life and life eternally.

After you've given your life to show you love someone is there really anything more you can do to convince them?
 
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I am Christian.

John 14: 6 says Jesus answered I am the way and the truth and the life.
See who Jesus is claiming to be here? He's EVERYTHING!!

Revelation 22: 13 says I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Again, proves that Jesus is EVERYTHING!!

Forget about Christians. Focus ONLY on Christ. He's telling you in those 2 verses Who He is. He was Perfect with NO sin whatsoever. Talk to Him and only Him and open your heart for Him


Well i don't see any reason to think your specific religion is the only possible truth...
 

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Some parents don't care about their kids. they abuse them, neglect them, even kill them. They do this cuz they hate their kids and/or find it amusing to do those things and/or are apathetic about their (kids) existence. whats to say, if a god created us, that he is not any/one of those types of parents? (as he seems to be, not saying he is, just saying seems)

(be advised bible verses about gods love have very little merit with me cuz they can't be proven)
You are absolutely right. One of my favorite movie lines is from Father Of The Bride, Keanue Reeve's character says something along the lines of "you have to have a license to drive, you have to have a license to cut hair, you even have to have a license to catch a fish, but any scum sucking butthole can be a parent". And it's very true. There are a whole lotta people out there having kids they have no 'right' to be having. As in, they are not right to raise kids.

Is God one of these parents? Well I could say no but you'd probably want more than just my word on that (dang). And I'm not one to quote a lot of chapter and verse, I abhor the verse wars that arise from it (altho everything we believe should be traceable back to scripture). It's actually worse than you think, He flat out tells us that if we accept our place as His children we are going to suffer for it. Why would a loving parent allow that? Well, because we're apart from Him at the moment, occupying a hostile land - much like a parent who allows their child to join up and go to Afghanistan to be blown up. They don't wish it upon their children, but they respect their children's right to choose how they live - and how they die. And if their child dies, do they regret ever having them? I've never met anyone who did.

And I don't agree that God's love can't be proven. It is proven every time I touch someone and speak a word of healing to them; it is proven every time I hand a bag of food to a homeless person, it is proven every time I come before God seeking miraculous things and miraculous things happen. See, that's what you need, is to not read or hear the words but see them in action. And that's what I pray for you; Lord, open this Young man's eyes, that he may see what it is he only hears at the present. Ephphatha!

Let me ask you this - do you wish you could just cease to exist, and see niether heaven or hell?
 

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Yes i am a doubter, but i dont intend to "plant" any "seeds". I'm just trying to explain how i see things.

But can anyone tell me something that i have not heard before? That is the question.
Don't know I am not God, knowing God can if you are seeking to know. God will or will not reveal God to you, And I do know the enemies of God will act as angels in order to make you walk away and doubt, which is what I see has taken place through your experiences. yet I know God will come through
Thanks for your honesty
 

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I'm still on the fence. but leaning heavily towards not.
Okay, no problem, love you anyway and care as I know God does and most people don't as to me as I see is whyt you are leaning to not beleive. Many people have obscured truth and many walk away from the true loving God through the deception of people, that one day God will say to these go away to them you that work iniquity, I never knew you.
Learn discernment those that have done wrong to you are not of God even though they claim it
Ask God to show you truth over the error(s) of this world's present darkness masquerading as if it is good, when it is not as you know
 

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Some parents dont care about their kids. they abuse them, neglect them, even kill them. They do this cuz they hate their kids and/or find it amusing to do those things and/or are apathetic about their (kids) existence. whats to say, if a god created us, that he is not any/one of those types of parents? (as he seems to be, not saying he is, just saying seems)

(be advised bible verses about gods love have very little merit with me cuz they can't be proven)
Breaking free from family that masquerades as good and believing when behind closed doors they are not, I see and know is not easy Sister, and the blame being on God is not what is truth here at least to me. It is the people, the flesh that is evil and only out for the self, that masquerades in front of others as if, when they are not.
That is where evil thoughts get planted into us that are abused by others in control of us and that thought is if this is God I want nothing to do with God, You think about it will, you
For it mis God that does just love you, and people act as if they do and don't. It is the people you have experienced that are bad and you are not alone in this. Once you start to live above your circumstances past or present, you will grow strong, very strong and able to help others that are or have been in your shoes
 

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Well... i need life to live lol as for eternal life: it seems likely not to exist.

Another idea thats giving me doubts about the legitimacy of this whole thing: what if "god" and the "serpent" were/are both working together?

Note: (don't mean to make anyone mad, just sharing my thoughts)

The devil is the master of disguise and causes and creates doubt. Wh
en this is in front of me I exercise Faith to God and sooner or later God shows me the truth, and I see and reject the doubt thoughts. knowing that God will see me through no matter what even if I make a mistake or a thousand.
For I desired to be loved, and the only way I got filled was and is believing God, not trying to be good enough, for all that ever did was make m
e worse.
So I quit and said I will just trust and watched all those not beneficial things that were not good fall off, kind of lik
e peeling an onion, hurt much at first, yet the middle of the onion is sweet as can be, it is worth the commitment, to trust God only over people
 

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I would say there is no reason to think the God defined in the bible exists.
Your argument of God must exist otherwise how did the sun, moon, universe come to be is a fallacy because it ignores all other possible explanations.
For the sake of argument lets say i am a deist, there is a God that made the universe but this God is completely different than God of the bible. You have no way of knowing if thats not the case, you simply have faith that its not true.
So creation of universe has really nothing to do with claims of christianity and whether the God described in the bible is real.
Okay, to each their own and Love you regardless,. God is God no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Well as far as i can tell they really believe. But i'm certainly not an authority on believing xD
When someone does evil and are out for themselves yet claim to be of God, is not the fruit identified, have you not experienced this, you said you were brought up in Church yes?
 

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Well it certainly seems that an all-powerful god could have set up a better system than this. I could almost think of one but that would take a whole book to explain.
Yes and did God set it up this way or Adam and Eve who by free choice ate from the tree that they were told not to, because of the consequensces that would bring forth death.
God did not lie and by this free choice that they made, no matter how it got made it was made. God showed Mercy and clothed them, set then out of the garden for them tom learn and death came.
Then in Noah's time God saw mankind being nothing but evil selfish, not caring for others, except those that agreed with them. And God regretted this evil, yet found Noah to not be prejudice, and told Noah to build an Ark, wanting to stop evil. Ans so flooded the whole world and man basically started over, yet evil was and is always present, being born of flesh, and evil to this day still goes on.
So in due time, God sent his Son to redeem us not in the flesh, rather in the Spirit of God to love all, and not be selfish and trust God to supply all our needs.
What is all our needs? Is it not to be loved unconditionally, if you are loved unconditionally and see this how will you respond to that person? This is how I respond to God through Christ in thanksgiving and praise, regardless of what others do or say to me. I am not dependent on anyone but God through Son Christ