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  1. J

    predestination vs freewill

    I await your reply.
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    predestination vs freewill

    Where do you get your theology from because it sure can not be the bible. What do you think Joh 16:8-11 means? And where do you get this from "Because they were able to hear and respond when others didn't and couldn't, that tells us they already had the Holy Spirit. The hearing in view could...
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    predestination vs freewill

    rogerg If you disagree with what I said in post #1277 then answer it. I just went by the bible. Do you have a problem with the quote from the LBCF, are you saying it is not correct? If you disagree with the post it is not me that you disagree with it is with the bible.
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    predestination vs freewill

    So according to your view the people are saved before they even hear the gospel message. So how does that work since that is not what the bible save is it. That does bring up a question or two. 1} Why even have a gospel message? 2} Why did Christ Jesus even have to go to the cross? Your...
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    predestination vs freewill

    “You did not receive the points that I was making because your Soteriological views blind you.” It is not my Soteriological view it is the bible. Your calvinist view requires that man can not make any choices that would lead to faith. And if I am reading you right you think that faith is a work...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    That justice you speak of is not really justice. Justice requires that all be treated equally, all have to have the same chance to attain the same ends. Under calvinism that is not the reality. My disagreement is not with the bible it is with calvinism. The scripture that you quote are true but...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    We could go back and forth on world and never come to an end but the one point that I do strongly disagree with is your comment "Most don't like this, it doesn't seem fair (according to mans standards). Yet it has nothing to do with fairness it is all to do with justice. Those God saves...
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    predestination vs freewill

    “As to John 12:32 - the Greek word translated "all" (πρὸς), in this passage can have many different meanings throughout Scripture.” I agree that the Greek word ALL {πάς} G3956 can be translated a number of ways but and this is critical for you to understand it can not be translated as ELECT...
  9. J

    predestination vs freewill

    God calls/draws all people Joh 12:32 but only those that respond in faith will be saved Eph 1:13. That is conditional salvation. Joh 3:18 So to answer your question no, not everyone will be saved even though God would like all to come to a saving knowledge and be saved. 1Ti 2:3-4
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Give us a list of those verses that you purport to support your view. You have been shown many that do not support your view and ignore those. Your blanket statement holds no water, show us the verses.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    The calvinist has decided that God picked out a small group that would believe and then condemned everyone else. Remember for the calvinist this all happened B4 creation so it had nothing to do with what any person had done or would do. So calvinists have God just making arbitrary choices but...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Well since you can not find this verse in your special Calvinist bible I put them here for you. You need to get...
  13. J

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    BF you just will not learn will you. God has made that condition of salvation faith in Christ Jesus. But you think that your salvation is just because you won the lottery or at least you hope you did because you can never be sure can you.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Actually we should look at the unbiblical doctrine of divine determinism that you hold to. If that doctrine were true then God not only chose those to be saved but also those to be condemned to hell. And this was not because of anything they did but just because He wanted to. Now that is why the...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Yes but you are very selective as to what scripture you use to do so. You should look at the whole of scripture then perhaps you would get your theology right.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Whereas you will believe anything that comes from your calvinist group. You have sold out to a man made theology and drank the kool-aid. If you ever take the time to look at the logical outcome of your views than you should be as shocked by them as we bible believing Christians are. Having read...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    This is the logical outcome of Calvinism and their divine determinism. You do realize those God chose to reprobate before the foundation were decreed reprobate before they had being ? What can a person possibly do before they exist? So under calvinism we have people condemned to an eternity in...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    It is most interesting that you will hang your hat on a single verse that you think helps you but will deny 40 + that say man is saved by faith or through faith. You should really stop cutting up your bible that way. TYou need to trust the whole of scripture.
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    How to stop sinning

    Perhaps for calling anyone that does not agree with his views a heretic. If memory serves he has done that more than once. But not sure if that is the reason.
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    Biblical Eternal Security vs 'Calvinistic Eternal Security' -by Gregg Jackson

    Looking at free will from a theological view we have two choices. 1} all things are determined in advance by God or 2} God has given man the ability to weigh the evidence and based on that to make a choice. When I say weigh the evidence I mean the gospel message, creation etc. God the Holy...