How To Be Un-Saved

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blue_ladybug

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Look, pal....

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You sound violent and angry. But again maybe that's just me.

In the U.S., when someone tells me 'look pal', I duck and run! (If I don't stick around to be struck on one cheek, I don't have to offer up the other one, right? ;) )
 

RickyZ

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Truth is only available to those who are willing to question what they think they know... so I always leave open at least a 10% chance that I could be wrong.

But I don't see many others here who will do the same.
 
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Take this like a Christian man should, deek......you do not display any fruit of the Spirit. You have no gentleness about you at all.

You can hate me and abuse me for telling you the truth, or you can look inward and accept the truth and find the grace of God to be different. That's what the rest of us do.
I don't hate you....just your false dogma...and sorry..you don;t have the truth.....far from it.....!
 
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Go look at what the people John is addressing ARE.....children of God who know the truth. Yet he warns them to not 'go out from us' as the others did. That instantly negates any suggestion that John was saying that any and all people who leave were never truly with us to begin with.
Not hardly..the people who go out from them had very pointed characteristics......
 
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You sound violent and angry. But again maybe that's just me.

In the U.S., when someone tells me 'look pal', I duck and run! (If I don't stick around to be struck on one cheek, I don't have to offer up the other one, right? ;) )
Not really....I just despise ALL false gospels that take the glory from Christ and place it upon self...and his is one of the top 2 o 3 that does this.....
 
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NoNameMcgee

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It's just you. Deek is not a very kind and gentle person. He is very abusive in this forum.
i disagree entirely

in the many months i clashed heads with dcon

he never once was "abusive"

what i have noticed though

if someone makes strawmen and is willing to try manipulate the situation or words and use deceptive tactics

he is harsh

if someone is honest and calm and use only scripture and reason to justify their position

he is gentile


but either way

he is longsuffering and willing to shine light on the truth
 
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Truth is only available to those who are willing to question what they think they know... so I always leave open at least a 10% chance that I could be wrong.

But I don't see many others here who will do the same.
I have no problem admitting error and or standing corrected...I have numerous times on this site stated that it was my bad, or I stood corrected and or even apologized when I have crossed the line and even contacted the moderators to ask for a post to be deleted and or corrected when I have stepped over the line.....I will also without remorse make a stand on the truth and any gospel that takes away from the work and ministry of Christ while putting emphasis upon self IS NOT OF GOD..........
 
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BillG

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i disagree entirely

in the many months i clashed heads with dcon

he never once was "abusive"

what i have noticed though

if someone makes strawmen and is willing to try manipulate the situation or words and use deceptive tactics

he is harsh

if someone is honest and calm and use only scripture and reason to justify their position

he is gentile


but either way

he is longsuffering and willing to shine light on the truth
Yes he is a gentile.
 
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Ralph-

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JESUS begins, finishes and completes every good work of faith he begins in a man....YOU do not KEEP yourself saved and or BELIEVING....and to the above rigmarole....
You can believe that if you want. I won't challenge you on that except to say that Jesus talks about those who can and do stop believing.

Immature believers are able to stop believing and be lost. Mature believers in whom the Word goes down deep into the soil of their hearts, and which produces fruit in abundance, they are the ones that can not be uprooted.



endure = reigning
deny = denial <--the lost-->Peter denied three times as a saved man and was NOT DENIED
lose FAITH HE REMAINS FAITHFUL
Peter never said Jesus was not the Messiah, nor turned away from him in unbelief. There's no question that he denied any association with him to save his own hide, but he never denied him in a rejection of his salvation and Lordship.



Your dogma is not of the LORD and it is highly doubtful that you will ever acknowledge the truth....and you CONTINUE to push I keep myself saved lie while denying that it is JESUS that BEGINS, FINISHES and COMPLETES all works of faith.....NOT YOU or I.......
I know you're not ever going to give up your Calvinist indoctrination that told you that God does your believing for you. Won't try. I'm posting for the benefit of others who have not been indoctrinated by that false theology oppressing the church in these end times.
 
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Ralph-

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i disagree entirely

in the many months i clashed heads with dcon

he never once was "abusive"

what i have noticed though

if someone makes strawmen and is willing to try manipulate the situation or words and use deceptive tactics

he is harsh

if someone is honest and calm and use only scripture and reason to justify their position

he is gentile


but either way

he is longsuffering and willing to shine light on the truth
I agree he loves as the world loves. He loves those who agree with him and in whom he finds no reason to abuse. That is the conditional love of humans, not the love of God.
 
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You can believe that if you want. I won't challenge you on that except to say that Jesus talks about those who can and do stop believing.

Immature believers are able to stop believing and be lost. Mature believers in whom the Word goes down deep into the soil of their hearts, and which produces fruit in abundance, they are the ones that can not be uprooted.




Peter never said Jesus was not the Messiah, nor turned away from him in unbelief. There's no question that he denied any association with him to save his own hide, but he never denied him in a rejection of his salvation and Lordship.



I know you're not ever going to give up your Calvinist indoctrination that told you that God does your believing for you. Won't try. I'm posting for the benefit of others who have not been indoctrinated by that false theology oppressing the church in these end times.
We will see......I look forward to you telling JESUS that you kept yourself saved.....Me on the other hand....ALL glory goes to Christ and I will thank him for finishing and completing the work of faith in me.....

That is the difference between us..........!!
 
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I agree he loves as the world loves. He loves those who agree with him and in whom he finds no reason to abuse. That is the conditional love of humans, not the love of God.
Now your judging motive and my inward heart.....more proof you do not follow God....
 

BillG

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I agree he loves as the world loves. He loves those who agree with him and in whom he finds no reason to abuse. That is the conditional love of humans, not the love of God.
Can you stand tall and say you don't love like the world loves?
 

RickyZ

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Not really....I just despise ALL false gospels that take the glory from Christ and place it upon self...and his is one of the top 2 o 3 that does this.....
Only because your preconceived notions keep you from understanding what it is he is saying.

Iow, what you think he is inferring is not at all what he is saying