Ummmmm.....no
This is clear error. You are reading into the scriptures that they teach that the age of the physical supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit would continue until today. The scriptures do not teach this.
This is a claim that can easily be proven if true but you cannot.
Has anyone looked into Jane Leads writings?
Jane Lead - William Branham Historical Research https://share.google/UTiXUyqoRkBqadKtI
Historically traced, much of the Hyper Charasmatic church is influenced by her teachings, especially the NAR. These influences affect ideas including miracles and such, which is why I post this here
I'll paraphrase some of what she prophesied:
That there will be a total renewal by which the true church will shine by operating in signs and wonders,
Man made religion will be brought down, and the Holy Spirit will individually teach each true faithed Christian in Gods ways.
This will be the seal that separates the sheep/goats. The true church will operate in the Spirit.
She has a belief as well that the giftings though they had fallen away, would make a resurgence and would be the mark of a true believer.
The problem I see with her is that she got all of these propheys from "Gods wife" who's name is Sophia, she being the goddess of wisdom.
Wouldn't this imply that miracles/signs and wonders had ceased around the 1600's?
Also if the giftings needed a resurgence wouldnt that had meant they weren't being practiced?
I believe that the Holy Spirt still works today, and that miracles are possible and do happen. I also believe that the Holy spirit can and does give giftings.
I just also wonder what significance church history may have, like why were people not operating in these things and why did it take a pagan woman to shape the history of the Charasmatic movement? Which in essense brought much of the modern day sighns, wonders, prophesy/practices of giftings and what not.
How should we interpret the Bible? I do not always have the answer for this as we can all be lead stray by our own wants and desires. I thank God that he doesnt let us fall too far away. Context obviously is the main importance, but how much of history should shape our views?
Anyway, please if im wrong correct me. Also feel free to look for yourself regarding her writings, and the history leading up to the latter rain movment, early pentacostalism, and the other main charasmatic groups. and tell me what you find!
Jesus ministry and the apostles had miracles, signs and wonders practically everyday.
Has anyone looked into Jane Leads writings?
Jane Lead - William Branham Historical Research https://share.google/UTiXUyqoRkBqadKtI
Historically traced, much of the Hyper Charasmatic church is influenced by her teachings, especially the NAR. These influences affect ideas including miracles and such, which is why I post this here
I'll paraphrase some of what she prophesied:
That there will be a total renewal by which the true church will shine by operating in signs and wonders,
Man made religion will be brought down, and the Holy Spirit will individually teach each true faithed Christian in Gods ways.
This will be the seal that separates the sheep/goats. The true church will operate in the Spirit.
She has a belief as well that the giftings though they had fallen away, would make a resurgence and would be the mark of a true believer.
The problem I see with her is that she got all of these propheys from "Gods wife" who's name is Sophia, she being the goddess of wisdom.
Wouldn't this imply that miracles/signs and wonders had ceased around the 1600's?
Also if the giftings needed a resurgence wouldnt that had meant they weren't being practiced?
I believe that the Holy Spirt still works today, and that miracles are possible and do happen. I also believe that the Holy spirit can and does give giftings.
I just also wonder what significance church history may have, like why were people not operating in these things and why did it take a pagan woman to shape the history of the Charasmatic movement? Which in essense brought much of the modern day sighns, wonders, prophesy/practices of giftings and what not.
How should we interpret the Bible? I do not always have the answer for this as we can all be lead stray by our own wants and desires. I thank God that he doesnt let us fall too far away. Context obviously is the main importance, but how much of history should shape our views?
Anyway, please if im wrong correct me. Also feel free to look for yourself regarding her writings, and the history leading up to the latter rain movment, early pentacostalism, and the other main charasmatic groups. and tell me what you find!
The excuse of "You just missed it, you should have been here yesterday" is getting rather old.
Presenting past events as evidence of supposedly ongoing events is absurd and willful blindness.
These baseless and silly claims are making a mockery of Christianity.
II Corinthians 5:7 was written 'during an age' when miracles and supernatural healing were occurring by someone through whom supernatural acts were done, one who believed that gifts like healings and workings of miracles were given as the Spirit wills. Therefore interpreting 'walk by faith and not by sight' to preclude the occurrence of miracles is to read ideas into the verse that the author did not intend.
I Corinthians 12 teaches that gifts are given to members of the body of Christ as the Spirit wills. If Peter walked on the Sea of Galilee, that doesn't mean all the rest of the 12 or all believers did. And if John was boiled in oil and survived, as tradition says, that doesn't mean all the apostles or all believers are to survive being boiled in oil.
Peter, quoting Joel in Acts 2 says that in the last days God will pour out His Spirit on all flesh, your sons and daughters shall prophesy.... Those unfamiliar with it can look up the passage. So an outpouring of God's Spirit in the last day is Biblical.Has anyone looked into Jane Leads writings?
Jane Lead - William Branham Historical Research https://share.google/UTiXUyqoRkBqadKtI
Historically traced, much of the Hyper Charasmatic church is influenced by her teachings, especially the NAR. These influences affect ideas including miracles and such, which is why I post this here
I'll paraphrase some of what she prophesied:
That there will be a total renewal by which the true church will shine by operating in signs and wonders,
Man made religion will be brought down, and the Holy Spirit will individually teach each true faithed Christian in Gods ways.
This will be the seal that separates the sheep/goats. The true church will operate in the Spirit.
She has a belief as well that the giftings though they had fallen away, would make a resurgence and would be the mark of a true believer.
The problem I see with her is that she got all of these propheys from "Gods wife" who's name is Sophia, she being the goddess of wisdom.
The Bible is many things but in the end the Bible is what it says it is.
So it has to be live, not last week, to be evidence for you. You might not have been satisfied with the miracles going on in the first century with your criteria. Why would God have to jump through hoops for you?
The Bible is many things but in the end the Bible is what it says it is.
People have chosen to downgrade what God can and does do the amount of unbelief in the church is astonishing
The thing is evidence is not how faith works, you only see the evidence based on if you can believe even without any evidence, the bible itself testifies that God is the same today as he was yesterday so if he healed the sick and cured the blind back then he does it today that is the simple fact of scripture never once does the bible say he will no longer do such things not even once so if it doesn't say that then why should we believe he still does not do these things today?
