Is it Always Gods Will to Heal?

[blue_ladybug]

Jesus said,
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

The word goes on to say this about Jesus:
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Once again you err, because you are grounded in personal opinion and not in the word.

You really do amuse me..lol.. That commandment came FROM God TO God, basically, because Jesus was God in human earthly form. God had control to bring himself (Jesus) down off the cross, or to leave himself (Jesus) hanging there, bloody, bruised and dying. Jesus' death fulfilled God's plan..Otherwise, God would never have let Jesus die. It is YOU who errs, because you twist people's words to fit your skewed view of all this.

 

[tourist]

Not always, He is sovereign.
At least I have not seen any Scripture saying it is.
Our healing will become complete when we receive our new bodies.

I am going with your flow in regards to complete healing.

 

[tourist]

You really do amuse me..lol.. That commandment came FROM God TO God, basically, because Jesus was God in human earthly form. God had control to bring himself (Jesus) down off the cross, or to leave himself (Jesus) hanging there, bloody, bruised and dying. Jesus' death fulfilled God's plan..Otherwise, God would never have let Jesus die. It is YOU who errs, because you twist people's words to fit your skewed view of all this.

He may be in need of healing.

 

[1still_waters]

What does the Bible tell you?

I believe the Bible tells me it depends on God's will.
I'll do the lil dance with you.
What do you believe the Bible tells you?

 

[blue_ladybug]

He may be in need of healing.

​Amen on that, brother!! lol

 

[ELECT]

the context of that passage is sin, Sin causes illness. If we confess our sins, then we have a means to be spiritually healed of that sin. And also can (depending on circumstance) may get physical healing (ie an alcoholic who quits drinking)

you are wrong we ask for forgivness of sins then if sin was the case then everyday there will be a line by the pastor for forgiveness of sins

note it says and if He has committed sin one can be ill and not because of sin

 

[1still_waters]

What does the Bible tell you?

Because nailing Jello to the wall is a pastime for me, I'll give it another go, based on how you appear to be approaching this issue.

In your reading of scripture, do you believe it's biblical to say God wants all healed, and that lack of faith/belief is the only thing preventing healing?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

you are wrong we ask for forgivness of sins then if sin was the case then everyday there will be a line by the pastor for forgiveness of sins

note it says and if He has committed sin one can be ill and not because of sin

forgive me brother. But I do not understand what your saying

 

[blue_ladybug]

Because nailing Jello to the wall is a pastime for me, I'll give it another go, based on how you appear to be approaching this issue.

In your reading of scripture, do you believe it's biblical to say God wants all healed, and that lack of faith/belief is the only thing preventing healing?

LMBO @ "because nailing jello to the wall is a pastime for me"!! thanks for the giggle, stilly..

 

[ELECT]

forgive me brother. But I do not understand what your saying

james five with the anoitting by elders for the sick is for sickness not forgiveness of sins as it piority

 

[elf3]

Because nailing Jello to the wall is a pastime for me, I'll give it another go, based on how you appear to be approaching this issue.

In your reading of scripture, do you believe it's biblical to say God wants all healed, and that lack of faith/belief is the only thing preventing healing?

Try mixing superglue into the jello. It might work then lol

 

[eternally-gratefull]

james five with the anoitting by elders for the sick is for sickness not forgiveness of sins as it piority

no, confessing sin is the context. Not healing all sickness. God never promised to heal all sickness, so it can't be the context. If God promised to heal all illness, there would be 2000 year old men and woman walking the earth now.

 

[kaylagrl]

Sorry if I sounded a little gruff there. Bad day at the office and I kinda took it out on you. Please accept my apologies.

Ahhh I'm a tough girl,I can take it.lol I think we agree more than we disagree.It's all good!

 

[kaylagrl]

One's healing does not lie in their faithfulness to God but God's faithfulness to His word. I, we, need to go to a place of "If its His will" to "It is His will" because there in lies the problem. If we don't know if our heavenly Father who loves us so very much wants to heal us, what does that say about God? It has nothing to do with sovereignty and everything to do with His love and Jesus. God in His mercy may heal you based upon your hope that He will heal you, but you can also go and embrace His grace and see that He already has healed you in Jesus Christ.



One is certain and another is a hope that God will just do it. One says it is done and the other says, "It can be done." One accepts what Christ's beating has accomplished on their behalf and for their mortal bodies and the other bases their healing in the hope that God will do it regardless of their acceptance of what Christ has accomplished on their behalf. Neither is wrong, but one of them has a higher yield. While one is based in chance, the other is not. It is based upon the actions of Jesus thousands of years ago.

So while our faith may say that I believe God heals today, it is another matter to say that I believe God has healed me (past tense). You have to speak life, speak and echo what God says about you. If He has said that by His stripes you are healed, then echo it. Say what God says about you. I am healed, in Jesus name (for by His stripes I am healed). We can hope for healing, indeed I do. But we must go from a place of hope into faith if we wish for a more certain answer and manifestation to our desire to be healed. I am not saying your hope is in vain because God honors such hope because He sees you rely upon Him. However, faith takes grasp of the healing while hope is more passive.

This by no means is meant to offend or question your faith; it is more along the lines of redirecting the faith. You have the faith, it only needs to be aimed at the right source. Jesus.

Excellent reply Ben.You and I are in total agreement! It is ALWAYS His will to heal! Jesus never said no,he healed all that came to him.

 

[1still_waters]

It has nothing to do with sovereignty and everything to do with His love and Jesus. God in His mercy may heal you based upon your hope that He will heal you, but you can also go and embrace His grace and see that He already has healed you in Jesus Christ.

So the only thing keeping people sick is their unbelief/lack of faith/failure to seize the healing?
Is that what you believe the Bible teaches?
Am I hearing you clearly?

 

[Stephen63]

Healing IS promised to the church..... but God makes exceptions. Wonderful saints have died premature in life from all types of illnesses. Some have been sick from birth.

We forget a few things that God does:
God may want to bring His child home now..... who am I to argue with that?
God has a fixed time for everyone to die..... & chooses the ailment or the absence of one.
When we suffer for His sake..... we don't know what the situation might be..... but..... we will be rewarded for it, & Christ will receive glory for it. Many times we suffer sickness so that others can watch God at work in our lives.

However, this does not negate the promise of healing to the church at all. Let us also remember all the types of healing that comes with that promise..... spiritual, physical, emotional, chemical dependencies, & the list goes on.

IMO, the real issue is that God's ways are higher than ours, & sometimes we get too big for our britches to admit it & end up fussing with the brethren.

 

[tourist]

Healing IS promised to the church..... but God makes exceptions. Wonderful saints have died premature in life from all types of illnesses. Some have been sick from birth.

We forget a few things that God does:
God may want to bring His child home now..... who am I to argue with that?
God has a fixed time for everyone to die..... & chooses the ailment or the absence of one.
When we suffer for His sake..... we don't know what the situation might be..... but..... we will be rewarded for it, & Christ will receive glory for it. Many times we suffer sickness so that others can watch God at work in our lives.

However, this does not negate the promise of healing to the church at all. Let us also remember all the types of healing that comes with that promise..... spiritual, physical, emotional, chemical dependencies, & the list goes on.

IMO, the real issue is that God's ways are higher than ours, & sometimes we get too big for our britches to admit it & end up fussing with the brethren.

God's ways are indeed higher than our ways. I am in agreement with you on this post, brother. Excellent post.

 

[kaylagrl]

Health and weath crap is only crap!

You basically said I don't have enough faith in God to be healed. You say my faith is directed the wrong way. Sorry but you are way off the mark!

Because of my faith in God he is healing me it's called sanctification. I am way more concerned about my salvation than my body. My body will only be here for a short time...my salvation will last forever!

You best study a bit more on "by His stripes we are healed". It's not the physical healing we need skip!

Im sorry my friend but you are wrong.Jesus healed all that came to him.He never turned anyone away. Matthew 8 16:17...16 When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick. 17 This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah:“He took up our infirmities
and bore our diseases.”[a]

Also in Matt 8:2-3 ....
[h=1]Matthew 8:2-3New International Version (NIV)[/h]2 A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”
3 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!”Immediately he was cleansed of his leprosy.
So please be careful when calling health and wealth "crap" that is a dangerous thing to say.It is always Gods will to heal.

 

[1still_waters]

Im sorry my friend but you are wrong.Jesus healed all that came to him.He never turned anyone away. Matthew 8 16:17...16 When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick.17 This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah:“He took up our infirmities
and bore our diseases.”[a]

Also in Matt 8:2-3 ....
Matthew 8:2-3New International Version (NIV)

2 A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”
3 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!”Immediately he was cleansed of his leprosy.
So please be careful when calling health and wealth "crap" that is a dangerous thing to say.It is always Gods will to heal.

Do you believe the Bible teaches that the only thing keeping people from being healed is lack of faith, and it's simply failure to seize the promises of God?

 

[elf3]

Im sorry my friend but you are wrong.Jesus healed all that came to him.He never turned anyone away. Matthew 8 16:17...16 When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick. 17 This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah:“He took up our infirmities
and bore our diseases.”[a]

Also in Matt 8:2-3 ....
[h=1]Matthew 8:2-3New International Version (NIV)[/h]2 A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”
3 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!”Immediately he was cleansed of his leprosy.
So please be careful when calling health and wealth "crap" that is a dangerous thing to say.It is always Gods will to heal.

If "it is always Gods will to heal" then tell me why I haven't been healed. I pray I have faith and total trust in God. So please do tell.