Was The Book Of Revelation Written Pre-70AD As Many Claim?

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Truth7t7

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Kolistus said:
I heard they found some Trump votes in a river and stuff like that. Trump mentioned it in the first debate. This election is going to be the biggest scam in U.S. election history. The globalists want Biden in power no matter what. (Or anyone really, just as long as its not Trump)
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I agree 100%

Not just the commie globalist like George Soros and many others

President Trump has turned the tables over on all those against America First

50 years ago it was a sin to take American business outside the country, the bipartisan steel outside in Congress!

NAFTA in 1993 was the major turning point on the sell out, then followed by China being removed from a declared enemy, to the most favored nation for trade in 2000, check the voting out below, the political sell out of America $$$

Senate Congressional Record:

Senate Vote Nov 20, 1993 NAFTA Free Trade

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---61​
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boren (D-OK)
Bradley (D-NJ)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brown (R-CO)
Bumpers (D-AR)
Chafee (R-RI)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coverdell (R-GA)
Danforth (R-MO)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeConcini (D-AZ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dole (R-KS)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durenberger (R-MN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hatfield (R-OR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Johnston (D-LA)
Kassebaum (R-KS)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
Mathews (D-TN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mitchell (D-ME)
Moseley-Braun (D-IL)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Nunn (D-GA)
Packwood (R-OR)
Pell (D-RI)
Pressler (R-SD)
Pryor (D-AR)
Robb (D-VA)
Roth (R-DE)
Simon (D-IL)
Simpson (R-WY)
Specter (R-PA)
Wallop (R-WY)
Warner (R-VA)
NAYs ---38​
Akaka (D-HI)
Boxer (D-CA)
Bryan (D-NV)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (D-CO)
Cohen (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
D'Amato (R-NY)
Exon (D-NE)
Faircloth (R-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Ford (D-KY)
Glenn (D-OH)
Heflin (D-AL)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kempthorne (R-ID)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Metzenbaum (D-OH)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Reid (D-NV)
Riegle (D-MI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Sasser (D-TN)
Shelby (D-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wofford (D-PA)
Not Voting - 1​
Dorgan (D-ND)

Senate Congressional Record:

Senate Vote Sep 19, 2000 Normal China Trade Relations

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---83​
Abraham (R-MI)
Allard (R-CO)
Ashcroft (R-MO)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bryan (D-NV)
Burns (R-MT)
Chafee, L. (R-RI)
Cleland (D-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grams (R-MN)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Reed (D-RI)
Robb (D-VA)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Roth (R-DE)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thompson (R-TN)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)
NAYs ---15​
Bunning (R-KY)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (R-CO)
Feingold (D-WI)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Smith (R-NH)
Specter (R-PA)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Not Voting - 2​
Akaka (D-HI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
 
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Kolistus said:
I heard they found some Trump votes in a river and stuff like that. Trump mentioned it in the first debate. This election is going to be the biggest scam in U.S. election history. The globalists want Biden in power no matter what. (Or anyone really, just as long as its not Trump)
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and in the garbage can and in boxes and the dark side of the moon too I think

the globalists want a puppet in power and Harris has some very pointed teeth

we have the lord of the manor, Trudeau, sitting pretty up in Canada...a globalist but a wanna be powerful globalist ( compliant but not independent)

this election is looking an awful lot like a third world sham IMO
 
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lenna said:
and in the garbage can and in boxes and the dark side of the moon too I think

the globalists want a puppet in power and Harris has some very pointed teeth

we have the lord of the manor, Trudeau, sitting pretty up in Canada...a globalist but a wanna be powerful globalist ( compliant but not independent)

this election is looking an awful lot like a third world sham IMO
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Justinian Trudolt is a commie dictator, I'm surprised he was re-elected.

Shows how lost Canada really is, I pray for a peaceful victory for President Trump, time will tell?

President Trump And America are leading the turn in the world, UK-Brexit, Brazil, Australia, peace agreements in the middle east

The globalist world agenda took a major turn with President Trump, WHO, TPP, UN, China Trade, NATO, NAFTA

The globalist overlords hate President Trump, along with big business that are using China and 3rd world countries for slave labor, and to pollute their environments $$$
 
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Dino246 said:
ALL interpretations are partially preterist. Your attitude is terrible.
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Not all interpretations are partially preterist, my views are (Future Unfulled) your claim is false

1.) Matthew 24:15, Daniel's AOD (Future)

2.) Matthew 24:21, The Great Tribulation (Future)

3.) Matthew 24:29-30, The Second Coming (Future)
 
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Truth7t7 said:
Not all interpretations are partially preterist, my views are (Future Unfulled) your claim is false

1.) Matthew 24:15, Daniel's AOD (Future)

2.) Matthew 24:21, The Great Tribulation (Future)

3.) Matthew 24:29-30, The Second Coming (Future)
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If you believe that Jesus has already come in the flesh, then you are at least a partial preterist. If you don't, you aren't a Christian. ;)
 
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Dino246 said:
If you believe that Jesus has already come in the flesh, then you are at least a partial preterist. If you don't, you aren't a Christian. ;)
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Its apparent you dont have a clue on what the school on thought in Preterism even is, Smiles!

Preterism evolves around interpretation of the (Olivet Discourse)

Once again, my views are (Future Unfulfilled) concerning the (Olivet Discourse) as seen below.

1.) Matthew 24:15, Daniel's AOD (Future)

2.) Matthew 24:21, The Great Tribulation (Future)

3.) Matthew 24:29-30, The Second Coming (Future)

Wikipedia: Preterism, a Christian eschatological view, interprets some (partial preterism) or all (full preterism) prophecies of the Bible as events which have already happened. This school of thought interprets the Book of Daniel as referring to events that happened from the 7th century BC until the first century AD, while seeing the prophecies of the Book of Revelation as events that happened in the first century AD.

The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is a prefix denoting that something is "past" or "beyond". Adherents of preterism are known as preterists. Preterism teaches that either all (full preterism) or a majority (partial preterism) of the Olivet discourse had come to pass by AD 70.
 
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Its apparent you dont have a clue on what the school on thought in Preterism even is, Smiles!

Preterism evolves around interpretation of the (Olivet Discourse)

Once again, my views are (Future Unfulfilled) concerning the (Olivet Discourse) as seen below.

1.) Matthew 24:15, Daniel's AOD (Future)

2.) Matthew 24:21, The Great Tribulation (Future)

3.) Matthew 24:29-30, The Second Coming (Future)

Wikipedia: Preterism, a Christian eschatological view, interprets some (partial preterism) or all (full preterism) prophecies of the Bible as events which have already happened. This school of thought interprets the Book of Daniel as referring to events that happened from the 7th century BC until the first century AD, while seeing the prophecies of the Book of Revelation as events that happened in the first century AD.

The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is a prefix denoting that something is "past" or "beyond". Adherents of preterism are known as preterists. Preterism teaches that either all (full preterism) or a majority (partial preterism) of the Olivet discourse had come to pass by AD 70.
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Please learn how to use brackets correctly. Reading your posts is like reading the blather of a second-grader. You have absolutely no credibility with me because of your willful ignorance of this matter.
 
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Truth7t7 said:
Its apparent you dont have a clue on what the school on thought in Preterism even is, Smiles!

Preterism evolves around interpretation of the (Olivet Discourse)

Once again, my views are (Future Unfulfilled) concerning the (Olivet Discourse) as seen below.

1.) Matthew 24:15, Daniel's AOD (Future)

2.) Matthew 24:21, The Great Tribulation (Future)

3.) Matthew 24:29-30, The Second Coming (Future)

Wikipedia: Preterism, a Christian eschatological view, interprets some (partial preterism) or all (full preterism) prophecies of the Bible as events which have already happened. This school of thought interprets the Book of Daniel as referring to events that happened from the 7th century BC until the first century AD, while seeing the prophecies of the Book of Revelation as events that happened in the first century AD.

The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is a prefix denoting that something is "past" or "beyond". Adherents of preterism are known as preterists. Preterism teaches that either all (full preterism) or a majority (partial preterism) of the Olivet discourse had come to pass by AD 70.
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Here is some help.

How to Use Brackets in Writing
 
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Dino246 said:
Please learn how to use brackets correctly. Reading your posts is like reading the blather of a second-grader. You have absolutely no credibility with me because of your willful ignorance of this matter.
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Big Smiles, The English Teacher Has (Spoken)

Forget About Answer Your False Claims, The Ole Diversion On The Use Of (Brackets) Real Big Smiles! :giggle:
 
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Dino246 said:
Please learn how to use brackets correctly. Reading your posts is like reading the blather of a second-grader. You have absolutely no credibility with me because of your willful ignorance of this matter.
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Agree, but when I read the posts for some reason I find it {comical}.
 
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EleventhHour said:
We all make typos, especially when in a hurry, but written conventions are there for a reason.
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(Im) (Not) (The) (Best) (At) (Punctuation), (Im) (Not) (Here) (For) (Writing) (Classes), (Back) (To) (The) (Topic) (y)
 
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Truth7t7 said:
(Im) (Not) (The) (Best) (At) (Punctuation), (Im) (Not) (Here) (For) (Writing) (Classes), (Back) (To) (The) (Topic) (y)
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You can save yourself some effort by keeping it simple, there is no need for brackets most of the time.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Agree, but when I read the posts for some reason I find it {comical}.
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That's ({Comical})

A Big Smile On How Posters Will Use Claims Of Punctuation, To Excuse Their False Claims Made Without Response, Now That's (Comical),

And To Watch Other Posters Stand In Agreement With Them, Thats Even More (Comical)
 
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EleventhHour said:
You can save yourself some effort by keeping it simple, there is no need for brackets most of the time.
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My punctuation isnt the problem,the posters inability to respond to their false claims made regarding Preterism is, now that's (Comical)

The poster dosent have a clue on what Preterism is, and runs around in correction like a blind man, more comedy.
 
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Truth7t7 said:
My punctuation isnt the problem,the posters inability to respond to their false claims made is, now that's (Comical)
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Not sure to whom you are referring, however my view is this, while yes typos and grammatical errors occur on a discussion board, this not formal format like an essay, written expression is a tool for communication and we should try to adhere to written conventions so that our out of respect for our readers and so that our ideas are comprehensible.
 
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EleventhHour said:
written expression is a tool for communication and we should try to adhere to written conventions so that our out of respect for our readers and so that our ideas are comprehensible.
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Your Teaching Proper English And Punctuation? o_O:eek:

Have You every heard of that saying?

"The pot calling the kettle black"

Stop while a little respect is left, Big Smiles!
 
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