Whatever people say the mark of the beast is: its a lie.
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lol, it's a pun garee,,, I guess you have had so many people trying to convince you that the r.f.i.d. is the mark that it has become second nature for you to mention it(in defense). If you look back at anything I have posted to you in this thread or others you will see that I have never said an r.f.i.d. was the mark.
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lol, I find it odd we are now five pages into a thread about the mark and the only time the word "temple" has been mentioned was by me a few pages back. The only way the temple can be polluted is for God the Almighty to see it as a valid temple he dwells in(we are the temple of God) not one of stone and wood. If they build one of stone and wood it surly would be in a place it ought not be.
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I cannot remember if it was you I had discussed this with awhile back, when I'd pointed out how the definite article ('the') is not used when it ('temple') is referring to us (the Church which is His body); and that Rev11:1 clearly distinguishes between "the temple of God" and the "THEY that worship THEREIN" (as distinct entities, if you will)
Yes we have spoken of this before. My reference is to the temple the Branch builds https://biblehub.com/interlinear/zechariah/6-12.htm (hekal et) would denote the temple,, are you speaking of Greek,Hebrew or both?
I'm referring to the Greek, like here (for example)… no definite article "the" (when referring to us/'the Church which is His body'):
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--1Cor6:19 - https://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/6-19.htm
--2Cor6:16 - https://biblehub.com/text/2_corinthians/6-16.htm [especially here]
"temple" -
--1Cor6:19 - https://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/6-19.htm
--2Cor6:16 - https://biblehub.com/text/2_corinthians/6-16.htm [especially here]
And Paul is quoting Ezekiel https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ezekiel/37-27.htm why would Paul refer to this if he thought we were not being compared to Ezekiel 37:27?
Sometimes things aren't so simple or obvious but takes wisdom from God and a bit of grey matter to figure them out. Such as...
At the beginning of your pleas for mercy a word went out, and I have come to tell it to you, for you are greatly loved. Therefore consider the word and understand the vision. (Dan 9:23)
“Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place. (Dan 9:24)
Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. (Dan 9:25)
And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed. (Dan 9:26)
And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” (Dan 9:27)
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Rev 13:18)
At the beginning of your pleas for mercy a word went out, and I have come to tell it to you, for you are greatly loved. Therefore consider the word and understand the vision. (Dan 9:23)
“Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place. (Dan 9:24)
Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. (Dan 9:25)
And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed. (Dan 9:26)
And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” (Dan 9:27)
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Rev 13:18)
lol,, yep and Daniel 10:21 I always gave that verse a long look. You would think angels in heaven would just know everything but "holdeth with me in these things" would seem to mean that Michael and Gabriel(I suppose) were the only ones who could understand this of the other angels. 1 Peter 1:12 is referencing this I think.
Since we are a body,i believe no one man has the complete revelation of end times. No matter who expounds on eschatology, the word is always held against it as a standard. IOW we need each others revelation.
I usually don't let anyone know what my specific revelation is, because much of what i discuss is why this or that is not even possible,so we really don't get down to letting building blocks take us into productive discussion.
Conversely i kinda enjoy being challenged.
I am unsure of your position,but it seems we agree on most things
I usually don't let anyone know what my specific revelation is, because much of what i discuss is why this or that is not even possible,so we really don't get down to letting building blocks take us into productive discussion.
Conversely i kinda enjoy being challenged.
I am unsure of your position,but it seems we agree on most things
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My Theory:
I have a theory that the mark of the beast is actually the OP of this thread.
He brought this whole thing up just so we wouldn't suspect him.
How can he be the mark?
The mark will be in your hand, and if you take it, you cannot buy or sell.
So... he's going to sit on your hands, and then you can't reach your wallet, and so you can't buy or sell.
That's my theory:
the mark of the beast is the OP, and he's here covertly to confuse and cover his tracks, but secretly he just wants to sit on your hands so you can't go shopping.
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I have a theory that the mark of the beast is actually the OP of this thread.
He brought this whole thing up just so we wouldn't suspect him.
How can he be the mark?
The mark will be in your hand, and if you take it, you cannot buy or sell.
So... he's going to sit on your hands, and then you can't reach your wallet, and so you can't buy or sell.
That's my theory:
the mark of the beast is the OP, and he's here covertly to confuse and cover his tracks, but secretly he just wants to sit on your hands so you can't go shopping.
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Greetings, First post, so I will preface with a caveat, I read many posts, but not all, and if my post is redundant, my apologies. Regarding the "Mark" of the Beast...I am persuaded that it refers to the Social Security Number which now exists in all organized governments of the earth. It is illegal to drive, bank, borrow, work, etc, etc without one.
Hello SimpleGardner,
The problem with that theory is that, our SSN does not go on our hand or forehead, which is what the scripture states where the mark will go. What it does have to do with, is the current electronic crediting and debiting system. As the world continues marching on towards being cashless, the technology for the mark will continue to evolve from card swiping and cell phone bank apps. etc., to another more applicable device/mark in preparation for the revealing of the beast. At that time, all other methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete leaving only that mark, which will force people to receive or reject it. Anyone not receiving it will not be able to buy or sell, i.e. will not be able to electronically credit or debit their bank accounts. Those who do receive it will suffer the consequences announced by the third angel in Rev.14.
Regarding the mark, we already have the technology as people are already being implanted under the skin of the hand with RFID chips, with one of its purposes being to make purchases (buying).
The problem with that theory is that, our SSN does not go on our hand or forehead, which is what the scripture states where the mark will go. What it does have to do with, is the current electronic crediting and debiting system. As the world continues marching on towards being cashless, the technology for the mark will continue to evolve from card swiping and cell phone bank apps. etc., to another more applicable device/mark in preparation for the revealing of the beast. At that time, all other methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete leaving only that mark, which will force people to receive or reject it. Anyone not receiving it will not be able to buy or sell, i.e. will not be able to electronically credit or debit their bank accounts. Those who do receive it will suffer the consequences announced by the third angel in Rev.14.
Regarding the mark, we already have the technology as people are already being implanted under the skin of the hand with RFID chips, with one of its purposes being to make purchases (buying).