This is the last sort of woman I'd want. I have enough of my own issues, I don't need to have some woman dumping here problems with her father on me as well! I'd rather die alone and unloved by the rest of the world than have to live with this woman the rest of my life. I believe proverbs says something about contentious women being bad.
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Along these (another other posts I've read) lines, I'd like to interject (not you personally Phoenix, just this idea...):
I want a woman with issues. I want a woman who can be amazing sometimes, messed up at others, and maybe some indifferent middle ground a lot of the rest of the time. I want a 'real' woman, not as people have all made their own definitions of 'real', but just an actual, everyday woman. One with flaws, failures, successes, struggles, and the whole package. You got baggage? So do I. Let's toss it together in the car, and head out for some adventure.
I want a partner. A life-long friend and lover who no matter what may come will choose to stay by my side over all else. I'm can image. I can dream. I can idealize, but I'm also just a broken, thinking, feeling human being. A man who wants a woman, but is content (though depressed) to live however God leads (or circumstance creates), be it in eternal solitude (at least romantically, which sounds about as fun as shoving toothpicks under my toenails and kicking a wall), a long series of ever-breaking hearts/relationships, or finally that one who stayed.
I'm just tired of all these "I Want someone incredible/heroic/the knees of the bees!" descriptors. We all have the potential to be incredible, and if you want someone who is unrealistically glorified, news flash, there are 6 billion people in the world, and the kind you're talking about number (maybe) in the 100s. What makes you the 'mate' who is 'worthy' of being with one in that group?? I know I'm not. I don't stand on merit. I hope for grace, and likewise seek to act within that same fashion.
Anyway, sorry for that soapbox, I"ll put it back now...
I want a woman with issues. I want a woman who can be amazing sometimes, messed up at others, and maybe some indifferent middle ground a lot of the rest of the time. I want a 'real' woman, not as people have all made their own definitions of 'real', but just an actual, everyday woman. One with flaws, failures, successes, struggles, and the whole package. You got baggage? So do I. Let's toss it together in the car, and head out for some adventure.
I want a partner. A life-long friend and lover who no matter what may come will choose to stay by my side over all else. I'm can image. I can dream. I can idealize, but I'm also just a broken, thinking, feeling human being. A man who wants a woman, but is content (though depressed) to live however God leads (or circumstance creates), be it in eternal solitude (at least romantically, which sounds about as fun as shoving toothpicks under my toenails and kicking a wall), a long series of ever-breaking hearts/relationships, or finally that one who stayed.
I'm just tired of all these "I Want someone incredible/heroic/the knees of the bees!" descriptors. We all have the potential to be incredible, and if you want someone who is unrealistically glorified, news flash, there are 6 billion people in the world, and the kind you're talking about number (maybe) in the 100s. What makes you the 'mate' who is 'worthy' of being with one in that group?? I know I'm not. I don't stand on merit. I hope for grace, and likewise seek to act within that same fashion.
Anyway, sorry for that soapbox, I"ll put it back now...
Maybe this is the one of the major problems in relationships... we're in love with a/the fantasy? we want a film character and not a real life person. I can relate to that though as we all at some time or other have had fantasies about fictional characters. The problem being (apart from the obvious) is that the story line or plot help make up the character and not just the characters traits.
Is it possible that watching films or reading books can give us false hopes, and can this dilute reality, not that watching films or reading books is bad.. but do we mix fantasy with reality?
Talking on a guy level, and I think it was seoul search who hinted at it.. some guys just fall in love with the fantasy of a trophy..like the guy seuolsearch mentioned. To me he's not even interested in the lady, he just wants to show off - As a Christian that would be disgraceful to be honest. Shes your sister (in Christ)!
Other guys want the fantasy of the wife who stays in the kitchen..cooking and baking and running after his every whim and need Again is this reality? I do realise that some ladies love to do that and that's great..but the question remains.. is that why your husband married you? I would hope not!
Other guys want both, they want their cake and eat it...
What I think I am trying to say is that fiction is just that, fiction. I don't think there is anything wrong with dreaming about the person you want to marry aslong as it is rooted in reality or else you may run into problems and hit earth with a big reality check! Just ask yourself if you where to take your film character out of the story line they are in and put them in the real world would they be the ideal person. probably not!
Is it possible that watching films or reading books can give us false hopes, and can this dilute reality, not that watching films or reading books is bad.. but do we mix fantasy with reality?
Talking on a guy level, and I think it was seoul search who hinted at it.. some guys just fall in love with the fantasy of a trophy..like the guy seuolsearch mentioned. To me he's not even interested in the lady, he just wants to show off - As a Christian that would be disgraceful to be honest. Shes your sister (in Christ)!
Other guys want the fantasy of the wife who stays in the kitchen..cooking and baking and running after his every whim and need Again is this reality? I do realise that some ladies love to do that and that's great..but the question remains.. is that why your husband married you? I would hope not!
Other guys want both, they want their cake and eat it...
What I think I am trying to say is that fiction is just that, fiction. I don't think there is anything wrong with dreaming about the person you want to marry aslong as it is rooted in reality or else you may run into problems and hit earth with a big reality check! Just ask yourself if you where to take your film character out of the story line they are in and put them in the real world would they be the ideal person. probably not!
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I like the idea of a strong woman. Not necessarily one that is so stubborn that she overrides everything and anything she's told; but rather, a woman who is self-assured, motivated, and willing to take action or take a chance. Most of the fictional women in media who fit this mold are far from perfect, and have their share of issues. That's okay, so do I.
I know there's a lot of discussion about this and that that has happened to occur since Grace's initial post. This is a direct response to that post. Fantasy, not reality, stero/archetypes, yadda yadda yadda. Doesn't change the original question. Answering honestly. Judge me however you want.
Lieutentant Saavik from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
A woman at war with herself. Half of her is Romulan, making her passionate, eager, and quick to react. Her Vulcan side and upbringing holds the passion back. She understands the importance of following orders and regulations, but she always wants to know the motivation and thought patterns behind every decision made. She wants to be better at every opportunity she gets.
[video=youtube;fAOoD4755pI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAOoD4755pI[/video]
Annie Edison from Community
Imagine little Annie Adderall at 30. Finally accomplished, assured, no longer directed by something to prove, no longer living with a chip on her shoulder. Finally a maturity and confidence to match her drive and intelligence. And finally over Jeff Winger. But still loves to be a little goofy and immature when it's appropriate. Where's that quantum spanner?
Olivia Dunham (Red universe, Peter-less timeline from Seasons 4/5) from Fringe
There are literally four different Olivias in Fringe, all of them strong and assured, and all with their own issues and baggage, but the altered timeline red Olivia has the best sense of humor and strongest moral character of the four. She's also the only one of the Olivias to not have any mental scarring from waking up to find Walter walking around the house au natural. Those poor girls. I almost chose Sarah Walker from Chuck in place of Olivia, but she doesn't have that same sense of humor, and that's what really gets me about Olivia.
Pepper Potts, as portrayed in the Iron Man films
Yeah yeah yeah, I like redheads. Shut up. I like redheads who can take charge of a situation. I like redheads who have genuine compassion for the people in their lives. I like redheads who say what they want. I like redheads who trust their men, but will also vaporize the bad guy when their man can't handle it. I like redheads who can do everything in heels because HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE DID SOMEONE AMPUTATE YOUR PINKY TOES?!
Peggy Carter as portrayed in Captain America: The First Avenger
Pretty much everything from all the women above, minus the ginger bit, plus a British accent. British accents are the ginger-joy of my ear canals.
And just because Zao brought it up...
Yo, Anne Hathaway/Kate Sackhoff/Halle Berry/Michelle Pfeiffer/Meriweather Lewis, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish...but Julie Newmar was the best Catwoman of all time. BEST CATWOMAN OF ALL TIME.
*walks off stage, mumbles something about Adrienne Barbeau coming in at a very VERY close second*
I know there's a lot of discussion about this and that that has happened to occur since Grace's initial post. This is a direct response to that post. Fantasy, not reality, stero/archetypes, yadda yadda yadda. Doesn't change the original question. Answering honestly. Judge me however you want.
Lieutentant Saavik from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
A woman at war with herself. Half of her is Romulan, making her passionate, eager, and quick to react. Her Vulcan side and upbringing holds the passion back. She understands the importance of following orders and regulations, but she always wants to know the motivation and thought patterns behind every decision made. She wants to be better at every opportunity she gets.
[video=youtube;fAOoD4755pI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAOoD4755pI[/video]
Annie Edison from Community
Imagine little Annie Adderall at 30. Finally accomplished, assured, no longer directed by something to prove, no longer living with a chip on her shoulder. Finally a maturity and confidence to match her drive and intelligence. And finally over Jeff Winger. But still loves to be a little goofy and immature when it's appropriate. Where's that quantum spanner?
Olivia Dunham (Red universe, Peter-less timeline from Seasons 4/5) from Fringe
There are literally four different Olivias in Fringe, all of them strong and assured, and all with their own issues and baggage, but the altered timeline red Olivia has the best sense of humor and strongest moral character of the four. She's also the only one of the Olivias to not have any mental scarring from waking up to find Walter walking around the house au natural. Those poor girls. I almost chose Sarah Walker from Chuck in place of Olivia, but she doesn't have that same sense of humor, and that's what really gets me about Olivia.
Pepper Potts, as portrayed in the Iron Man films
Yeah yeah yeah, I like redheads. Shut up. I like redheads who can take charge of a situation. I like redheads who have genuine compassion for the people in their lives. I like redheads who say what they want. I like redheads who trust their men, but will also vaporize the bad guy when their man can't handle it. I like redheads who can do everything in heels because HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE DID SOMEONE AMPUTATE YOUR PINKY TOES?!
Peggy Carter as portrayed in Captain America: The First Avenger
Pretty much everything from all the women above, minus the ginger bit, plus a British accent. British accents are the ginger-joy of my ear canals.
And just because Zao brought it up...
Yo, Anne Hathaway/Kate Sackhoff/Halle Berry/Michelle Pfeiffer/Meriweather Lewis, I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish...but Julie Newmar was the best Catwoman of all time. BEST CATWOMAN OF ALL TIME.
*walks off stage, mumbles something about Adrienne Barbeau coming in at a very VERY close second*
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LOL - now before this goes any further, what I mean is: Do you find yourself falling for a particular character as WIFE material.
Not just someone you think is sexy in a cat suit.
Not just someone you think is sexy in a cat suit.
(2) Never lies, never does anything that she feels a need to lie about
(3) Teaches me things in the Bible that I didn't know about (women teachers
)(4) Doesn't own a cat suit
