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Those pesky eagles: explained
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Many wonder why the Great Eagles didn't just carry Gandalf and Frodo to Mt. Doom to destroy the ring, thus saving a lot of time and lives along the way.
In Middle-Earth, Tolkien describes the Eagles much like the origin of the Ents. They are beings without Fëa, or souls, if you will. Without Fëa, they are not constrained to do good and are not bound to the same fates as the other creations of Illuvatar (like Elves, Men, etc.). Thus they are self-serving, and like the Ents, could only have been constrained to join the battle out of self-preservation or anger (after destroying Isengard and imprisoning Saruman the Ents went back to their normal business, they wouldn't have marched on Mordor because they couldn't see the danger).
They were proud creatures, and do not enjoy carrying burdens, seeing themselves above the "pack animals" of the world, only occasionally helping Gandalf because Gwaihir, the Lord of the Eagles was once healed by Gandalf.
To help Gandalf by flying them across Middle-Earth would have likely been seen as unneeded, or below them. And they likely wouldn't have seen the urgency or necessity of the ring's destruction (few people outside of Gondor even acknowledged the danger of Sauron regaining power).
Plus the obvious: the eye would have seen them.
source: Relatively Unknown LoTR Fact that People Might Wonder About - Imgur
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Many wonder why the Great Eagles didn't just carry Gandalf and Frodo to Mt. Doom to destroy the ring, thus saving a lot of time and lives along the way.
In Middle-Earth, Tolkien describes the Eagles much like the origin of the Ents. They are beings without Fëa, or souls, if you will. Without Fëa, they are not constrained to do good and are not bound to the same fates as the other creations of Illuvatar (like Elves, Men, etc.). Thus they are self-serving, and like the Ents, could only have been constrained to join the battle out of self-preservation or anger (after destroying Isengard and imprisoning Saruman the Ents went back to their normal business, they wouldn't have marched on Mordor because they couldn't see the danger).
They were proud creatures, and do not enjoy carrying burdens, seeing themselves above the "pack animals" of the world, only occasionally helping Gandalf because Gwaihir, the Lord of the Eagles was once healed by Gandalf.
To help Gandalf by flying them across Middle-Earth would have likely been seen as unneeded, or below them. And they likely wouldn't have seen the urgency or necessity of the ring's destruction (few people outside of Gondor even acknowledged the danger of Sauron regaining power).
Plus the obvious: the eye would have seen them.
source: Relatively Unknown LoTR Fact that People Might Wonder About - Imgur
[QUO somfoh_Chris;1639154]Point noted. I have not been on chat, but I will keep this in mind. I would find it awkward too, unless there is something you wish to convey which would benefit the other person.[/QUOTE]
True...There are exceptions. I would highly suggest the singles chat though . It really gives you a feel for some of the regulars and may very well help you feel more comfortable here in the forums and in the chat room as well .
True...There are exceptions. I would highly suggest the singles chat though . It really gives you a feel for some of the regulars and may very well help you feel more comfortable here in the forums and in the chat room as well .
Thank you Grace. 
Goac, I've never seen you in the forums until just now. Are you visiting the single's forum, or is it other forums. And by the way, you do not have to ask to join in. These are public forums that are meant for anyone to join. If someone want's to join in a thread where others do not welcome them, then the others need to take it to a private message. And Welcome.
Thank you violakat. I am sure I will settle down soon thanks to wonderful people like you.
I just remembered a beautiful song by U2 called 'Grace'.
What once was hurt
What once was friction
What left a mark
No longer stings
Because grace makes beauty
Out of ugly things
Grace finds beauty
In everything
Grace finds goodness
In everything.
It is more like a song of Proverbs 31, which talks about a virtuous woman.
I just remembered a beautiful song by U2 called 'Grace'.
What once was hurt
What once was friction
What left a mark
No longer stings
Because grace makes beauty
Out of ugly things
Grace finds beauty
In everything
Grace finds goodness
In everything.
It is more like a song of Proverbs 31, which talks about a virtuous woman.
This will be the last thing I say on the whole Israel v. Palestinians and the bible. If y'all want to PM me about what I say, I welcome it. I just won't talk about it again in the thread.
I am a dispensationalist. That means I take the bible literally. I believe Israel is still Israel. Christians and the United States are NOT spiritual Israel. I do not believe Covenant theology. The bible is EXTREMELY easy to understand, and I take my God at his word. I always have.
Therefore, didymos, Israel is still Israel. They, Israel, (me included because rabbinical law says my mom and our family are Jewish) "of old" and current Israel are still the Israel of the bible. Israel has been secular while they were still in biblical times, so your point doesn't jive.
And Chandler, God didn't dismiss Israel because of their antics. He did divorce them, but he also said that he would ALWAYS keep his promises. He took them back anyway. Israel is Israel. Christians are grafted into the vine. Adopted, not the originals.
I am a dispensationalist. That means I take the bible literally. I believe Israel is still Israel. Christians and the United States are NOT spiritual Israel. I do not believe Covenant theology. The bible is EXTREMELY easy to understand, and I take my God at his word. I always have.
Therefore, didymos, Israel is still Israel. They, Israel, (me included because rabbinical law says my mom and our family are Jewish) "of old" and current Israel are still the Israel of the bible. Israel has been secular while they were still in biblical times, so your point doesn't jive.
And Chandler, God didn't dismiss Israel because of their antics. He did divorce them, but he also said that he would ALWAYS keep his promises. He took them back anyway. Israel is Israel. Christians are grafted into the vine. Adopted, not the originals.
I understand that you are passionate about this subject, but using bold and caps doesn't make it more true (but I do agree with you that the United States is not "spiritual Israel" or God's covenant people). Also, I will just say that literal interpretation serves us well for the most part, but we must also read every passage of Scripture in light of the entire thing.Either way, I look forward to the day when I will get to sit down in a theology class taught by Jesus and learn what the truth really is on these things. Until then all we can do is look to the whole council of God in Scripture to guide us in these matters, and I respect and admire that you seek to do that.
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I have a fear of heights. I get all woozy if I am even 10 feet off the ground. Amusement rides, roller coasters, sky diving, etc. all can give me a heart attack.
Funny thing is I have flown so many times. Still, when I board a plane I am praying for my life.
Funny thing is I have flown so many times. Still, when I board a plane I am praying for my life.
But I take great delight in standing at the edge of a great view or bluff or mountain. It's so majestic.
And I love the strap in roller coasters, even though I am always super nervous before it starts, but in the end, I love the sensation of feeling like I am flying.
It's so... magical hehe. x) *throws glitter*
Thank you violakat. I am sure I will settle down soon thanks to wonderful people like you.
I just remembered a beautiful song by U2 called 'Grace'.
What once was hurt
What once was friction
What left a mark
No longer stings
Because grace makes beauty
Out of ugly things
Grace finds beauty
In everything
Grace finds goodness
In everything.
It is more like a song of Proverbs 31, which talks about a virtuous woman.
I just remembered a beautiful song by U2 called 'Grace'.
What once was hurt
What once was friction
What left a mark
No longer stings
Because grace makes beauty
Out of ugly things
Grace finds beauty
In everything
Grace finds goodness
In everything.
It is more like a song of Proverbs 31, which talks about a virtuous woman.
Roh Chris just wanted to welcome you to cc. I enjoy reading your posts. You seem very nice. Hope you stay.
Paying September mortage in the middle of August so I have more cash for our trip. I'm so tired of trying to pay for this darn trip. It will be fun but it's costing a lot. I guess it's worth it so I can see my Brother's. I miss them, hard part is I don't want to leave when we are finally all together.
I have a fear of heights. I get all woozy if I am even 10 feet off the ground. Amusement rides, roller coasters, sky diving, etc. all can give me a heart attack.
Funny thing is I have flown so many times. Still, when I board a plane I am praying for my life.
Funny thing is I have flown so many times. Still, when I board a plane I am praying for my life.
