Ive read the bible, this a false doctrine that is easily refuted, if you arent too brained washed, which happens very easily because people put too much of their emotions into what they want the bible to say to fit their outlook on life, instead of just reading Gods word and believing it whether they like it or not.
Its the same with other false doctrines, like saying, sodomy isn't wrong, Jesus never talked about homosexuality; just to fit it in their lifestyle. That is totally incorrect.
The truth is, we really don't want to go through these rough times, the persecution of the saints (satans wrath), which will be intense, but shortened for OUR sake (If they weren't shortened by God, satan wouldn't stop until we were all dead), but we will go through tribulation, all the way up to Gods wrath, when our new bodies are raised from the grave to meet our souls in the clouds, as we come back with Jesus. Yes, our new bodies come from the ground (just like our flesh did, just like Jesus did), and they join our souls. This is all in the bible, read it, the whole book.
The pretrib rapture smells like swiss cheese, its full of holes. Its mental acrobatics. The bible is straight forward with its doctrine, babes in christ believe this doctrine. Ive talked to MANY new christians that strictly believe this doctrine, which was invented in 1830. They do not want to hear the truth.
I can easily tell they are new because they fire back with rookie statements like, 'God would never appoint us to wrath', the rapture is in Rev 4, the rest of rev is Gods wrath, or, the seconding coming and rapture are 2 different events, its funny because, they think the tribulation and wrath are the same events, but they are separate, yet they dont see that the saints coming with jesus and the glorified bodies being raised from the grave are the same event, they split those two up; or ask newbie questions like, 'who will populate the millennium?'
Dead give aways that the person was only showed tidbits of scripture and built a false doctrine upon them, and did not read it in full, in context on their own, learning the truth in its entirety. Arguing is pointless. I joined here to see what the word on was the forums, and its the same in the false churches and seminaries. I will rebuke false doctrine til the end:
2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
Im saying the same to you as I would say to any other believer, Youre wrong about the pretrib lie, where to find the information has already been posted, if you read it and do not believe it, oh well. People didnt believe Jesus when he preached certain things. People stopped following Jesus because they didnt like what he said. People killed him for what he said. Talk about freedom of speech.
Proverbs 13:1 A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.
Proverbs 24:25 But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them. (if you are already wise)
Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.