Once Saved Always saved....Read this
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What is missing is this.
You say... I am saved by faith and not my works.
Then you add. If I do not do this (insert whatever it is you have been preaching, I can think of a few things) Then I will not be saved.
So you deceived yourself in the first statement did you not? And that's why people will have a hard time with what you say, You preach one theng, then when confronted about it, You claim you never taught it, you always taught that.
You say... I am saved by faith and not my works.
Then you add. If I do not do this (insert whatever it is you have been preaching, I can think of a few things) Then I will not be saved.
So you deceived yourself in the first statement did you not? And that's why people will have a hard time with what you say, You preach one theng, then when confronted about it, You claim you never taught it, you always taught that.
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I am not a slave to sin, why. because I stopped sinning? No, I would be a liar and a fool to say that. But because I am forgive, and am no longer a slave to that sin..
It is not my master. Not because I no longer sin, But because it can no longer condemn me,, Its sting (death) has been removed,
I have faith, I have Hope. and I have love, Because I am forgiven, Not because I stopped sin..
There is no victory in this, Look at Israel. They thought they were victors over sin too.. How good were they? The modern day legalistic church is no different than Israel. It is a bunch of self righteous. legalistic people going around condemning sinners, Praising their good works. and raising their hands to praise God..
And why is it that calvin keeps being run through the mud, Did I mention calvin? Why do you all have to use people who have been dead for centuries. Is the word of God not enough??
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Dude, Your lies will get you.. They might not get you here in CC, But god sees your lies, and do not think he will let you get away with them.
You want me to leave you alone, yet you continually lie about me, and my brethren,
It is things like this that got me started confronting you face to face as a hypocrite to begin with.
If you do not stop. You will continue to be confronted as a liar, a hypocrite, a self righteous, sinner who continues to do the very things he will yell at other people for doing to him.
As I have said many times, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE ELSE for doing the VERY THING YOU DO EVERY DAY!!
You want me to leave you alone, yet you continually lie about me, and my brethren,
It is things like this that got me started confronting you face to face as a hypocrite to begin with.
If you do not stop. You will continue to be confronted as a liar, a hypocrite, a self righteous, sinner who continues to do the very things he will yell at other people for doing to him.
As I have said many times, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE ELSE for doing the VERY THING YOU DO EVERY DAY!!
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No it does not.
Sin is a lifetime event, Not a one time event.
Paul looked at his whole life, not the moment.
That's the problem with religious people. they look at the now. And say, Ok I am good. I must be saved, Then if they fall into sin, Welp I better confess, and ger resaved, I am in sin.
News flash. We are always in sin, it is the blood of Christ which continues to wash us, not our good deeds. If I commit ONE SIN, no matter HOW SMALL THAT SIN IS, I am ACCORDING TO THE LAW. GUILTY, CONDEMNED.
James 2:10
For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
Paul realized this, That's why he said, I AM (present active) THE CHIEF of all sinners..
If people would just study, they would see, ONE STUMBLE, and you are guilty, Condemned righteously judged
Ony the blood of Christ can save you then.
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Can a believer stop believing? Can a believer turn his back on Christ? Can a Christian renounce their faith?
Is Grace conditional?
You know, for a long time now I've been thinking Grace is unconditional--but it's not; it hinges on our believing.
It seems to me that a cause of much dissension here is centered around linear thinking; we humans think of life in terms of start to finish--but life isn't so simple! If Man-X believes, then Man-X is saved. However, if Man-X stops believing at some point here on Earth, then Man-X is no longer saved (some would go further, to say Man-X never truly believed and therefore, was never truly saved).
"'I the Lord search the heart and test the mind,
to give every man according to his ways,
according to the fruit of his deeds.'" (Jer 17:10)
"'And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds." (Rev 2:23)
Is Grace conditional?
You know, for a long time now I've been thinking Grace is unconditional--but it's not; it hinges on our believing.
It seems to me that a cause of much dissension here is centered around linear thinking; we humans think of life in terms of start to finish--but life isn't so simple! If Man-X believes, then Man-X is saved. However, if Man-X stops believing at some point here on Earth, then Man-X is no longer saved (some would go further, to say Man-X never truly believed and therefore, was never truly saved).
"'I the Lord search the heart and test the mind,
to give every man according to his ways,
according to the fruit of his deeds.'" (Jer 17:10)
"'And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds." (Rev 2:23)
There comes a point my friend, when I do not know what you are referring to.
If people redefine sin, repentance, walking in Christ, salvation, redemption, being born again, there is little left to agree upon, and certainly not a coming together of minds. You may use the same language as me, but that is irrelevant if I cannot understand you. And yes there is always a problem with me, that is why I am learning.
Is difficult to accuse someone of being arrogant and incapable of understanding something when they do understand.
And I understand why I am being accused, but it does not make it true. If you cannot understand why I stand as I do, I can do no more.
If people redefine sin, repentance, walking in Christ, salvation, redemption, being born again, there is little left to agree upon, and certainly not a coming together of minds. You may use the same language as me, but that is irrelevant if I cannot understand you. And yes there is always a problem with me, that is why I am learning.
Is difficult to accuse someone of being arrogant and incapable of understanding something when they do understand.
And I understand why I am being accused, but it does not make it true. If you cannot understand why I stand as I do, I can do no more.
