LGBT Community

[PilgrimPassingThru]

No, they can't. A person can believe whatever they want to.

Its not just an expressed belief its an engaged in activity.

I dont know what the younger generation these days considers a respectful response to what has long been considered pervese and against nature. I could probably expect something like "that sounds cool" Or "to each their own" Or something along those lines most likely.

 

[A_Friend_In_Christ]

Have the rest of you caught on yet? Trolling not real?

 

[AuntieAnt]

The jig is up!

 

[Tintin]

Ok, folks - RED FLAG!!!

This person claimed to be 15 yrs old in her first wall of text post:
http://christianchat.com/user2user-tech-support/134093-confused.html

And now she's 17 yrs old in her latest post.

Her first post didn't catch any interest... so she reposted the same wall of text in a second thread and that didn't catch on either. The third time that same wall of text got plenty of people posting and yet she didn't interact with any of them. Because there was no debate, it was a peaceful thread.

The fourth time she posted, it was a different wall of text in response to someone asking about their homosexual brother:
http://christianchat.com/christian-...mosexual-brother-need-help-6.html#post2574931

When that didn't get much response, she began this thread with a wall of text and has posted over 40 replies debating what everyone else has posted. Again, she was 15 in the first post and now is stating that she is 17.

Draw your own conclusions.

This thread is aging her?

 

[AuntieAnt]

Also take notice how Julia professes to be a Christian in the op and claims to know how God views sin and yet in her profile says she's unsure about her spiritual condition. Too many contradictions to take this post seriously.

 

[chancer]

Opinions can be wrong.

my opinion is your opinion is an opinion based on opinions therefore you are opinionated ... meaning you have allot of opinions, that concluded my analysis of the opinions ...

 

[chancer]

oh finally ... after careful consideration and analysis of you opinions, I conclude they consist of poo and mothballs ...

 

[Luminous]

I'm sorry, with all due respect, but that's very arrogant. People aren't looking for us to "endorse them." They just want to be able to marry and be with the person they love? People can be gay and still be Christian. And I find it very disrespectful when you say "tolerate" like you have to put up with people being gay. It doesn't affect you in any way. They have to tolerate people's hate and arrogance too!!!

Dear juliak04, I think I understand the points in your very first post. Concerning the quote above, I have some questions for you: Can someone practicing homosexuality really be Christian? By Christian, I mean Christ-like- just as Christ lives (that is the meaning of Christian from the scriptures anyways).

Furthermore, do you think the Holy Jesus revealed to us in Life and Scripture will condone someone who practices 'homosexuality in His Bride'? To give you a hint of how it would look, read 1 Corin. 5:1-12. This tells you that the Church (Jesus' Bride) was to dis-fellowship anyone who was even 'sexually immoral', for example, someone who slept with his father's wife. Do you think the Church would have treated a person claiming to be in Jesus' Bride but practicing homosexuality any way different from the sexually immoral?

Is it really true that the God's children have no right to judge? I tell you the truth, by knowing that God condemns the act of homosexuality through the scriptures, you already stand in judgement of the act, knowingly or unknowingly. And when you fail to tell the Truth to people living in error for any reason other than the Love of God (which wants to bring people to the knowledge of the Truth anyways) you would be 'sinning', yes 'SINNING'.

For scripture references on judgement, look up 1 Corinthians 2:15, 1 Corin. 12-13. I believe you will get a good background on why, how and what God's children (His Church and His Bride) are expected to judge by God. The terms 'judge not' has been well twisted and misunderstood such that a statement that should further Jesus' Glory is used rather for the reverse.

Now, for a brief comment just as Paul says in 1 Corinthians 5:12-13: "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you." (NIV translation). From the scripture portion above, it is obvious to me that I should be more careful with people who claim to be members of Jesus' Bride while they go about ridiculing the Holy Name of Christ by their deeds.

Although an unbeliever (who is un-regenerated and who does not have God's Spirit) may do things that are anti-Jesus, it is obvious already that he/she is in darkness. I am obligated to reach out in love and gentleness towards such.

1 Corin. 5:9-11 states: "I have written to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people-not all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In this case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that YOU MUST ASSOCIATE WITH ANYONE WHO CALLS HIMSELF A BROTHER BUT IS SEXUALLY IMMORAL, A DRUNKARD OR A SWINDLER. WITH SUCH A MAN DO NOT EVEN EAT." (NIV translation) See Jude verse 22-23 to see how to treat the sexually immoral and others in the world who are not in Lord Jesus.

Given the above, it is just proper for you to go through the scriptures and see what LORD JESUS what HIS BRIDE to be. Do take time to reevaluate you perspective.

With the Sincere Love Who God Is

Luminous.

 

[crosstweed]

Don't mind me.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

A) Use paragraphs.
B) Homosexuality is not listed as 'minor'. It is listed as an abomination. Which is quite significant.
C) I don't 'think' homosexuality is a sin. I know it is. Because God said so. Believing in God's word doesn't mean i live in a 'perfect' world. It means i read and understand what the Creator of all things has to say on the subject.
D) This 'harmless' group is force feeding their acceptance, not only on adults, but indoctrinating it into young children, Against the wishes of their parents. Also, if you do not say homosexuality is ok then you are branded a homophobe and hateful. Just for saying 'i disagree' without actively doing anything against anyone. That is not a harmless group, either.
E) The bible doesn't say 'we are all God's children'. That is a secularization of Christianity. The bible says those who are born again are Adopted into God's family.
F) Accepting a person doesn't mean accepting their choices. If i had a kid who became a murderer i would still love them, without approving of, what they did. And voicing my disapproval in a right manner is not unloving.
G) Lets remember, there are atheists who mistreat homosexuals and Christians who treat them well. So this anti-Christian rant is pretty biased and one sided, and therefore, inaccurate, like much of what you've said.
H) There are all kinds of other people who are mistreated, including Christians, why are you only defending a small section of the billions of people unless you have some other motive?

You forgot one that would be very helpful: she should use the quote option.

It would be nice to know who she is addressing when she replies. As it is, she could be addressing her hand for all we know.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I'm sorry, with all due respect, but that's very arrogant. People aren't looking for us to "endorse them." They just want to be able to marry and be with the person they love? People can be gay and still be Christian. And I find it very disrespectful when you say "tolerate" like you have to put up with people being gay. It doesn't affect you in any way. They have to tolerate people's hate and arrogance too!!!

Absolutely not. People CANNOT be gay AND a christian. Christians don't practice homosexuality. God hates homosexuality. A person is NOT a christian if they are gay. God created man and woman to marry. Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve, or Eve and Ellen. :/ Homo sex with the same gender is un-natural and wrong, and it is an abomination in God's eyes. YOU would do better to tell these gay people at your school that they're going to hell if they don't repent that life style and get right with God. And yes, gay people DO look for us to endorse them, and they always will. They want acceptance from us, of a lifestyle that we don't agree with. As much attention as the gay agenda gets, we ARE being made to tolerate their evil lifestyle. Homo's will endure alot of hate from straight people, mostly because it's unnatural to be gay. It goes against the nature of how God intended people and marriage to be.

​Gay people feel entitled to their right to be gay and marry the same sex. THAT is why they garner so much hate and disrespect and intolerance. NOBODY is entitled to ANYTHING. So go save your friend's souls now, and tell them to repent now, because God IS going to return very soon.

 

[Depleted]

Hi. I am a Christian, and I'm assuming everyone reading this is as well, or seeking Christian advice. I am writing this to express both my sadness and anger of people's lack of understanding and cruelty toward the LGBT community. Most people treat these people so poorly due to religious reasons. I am a straight female. Am I ever going to fall in love with a woman, or turn into a man? No. I'm not. However, that does not give me the right to judge or treat anyone discriminately because of their choices. Does the Bible say homosexuality is wrong? Yes. I'm not denying that AT ALL. But that's just a minor detail of the Bible. We all read the Bible seeking information and understanding of God's love and how his son, Jesus Christ, made the ultimate sacrifice for us. The majority of the Bible contains how humans should love and embrace and show kindness to every human being. I am so sick of people being hateful towards people who make their decisions THAT DO NOT AFFECT ANYONE BUT THEM. What I mean by that is, even if you don't personally agree with homosexuality, which is perfectly fine, you can't be discriminatory towards people who have a different belief and are making their own choices. Especially when you aren't personally affected by their sexuality in anyway. If you think homosexuality is a "sin", you must think the world is some perfect place where no one ever does anything wrong. I have news for you. People do much worse things than love someone of the same sex. People who identify as homosexual cause no harm whatsoever. The type of thinking that anyone who goes beyond a stereotype of what the ideal human should be is sinning is ridiculous. I guarantee every person reading this has done something against God's word. And I'm sure if people showed you hate and cruelty because of it, you would feel insecure about yourself too. So instead of shutting people down for being different, let's lift everyone up. We all bleed red. We are all human. And we are all God's children. We should treat people as that, regardless of sexuality, race, gender, or anything else that people may have an issue with. If you are truly Christian, you would show love and acceptance to everyone. Not just people like you. I am not saying all Christian people do this, but at my high school, there has been severe bullying by people who use their religion as an excuse to torment a homosexual guy at my school. And I'm tired of it. The world will always have problems if people focus on the differences of people in a negative way instead of embracing them. There are so many worse things that happen than someone identifying themselves as homosexual. Let's remember one thing: just because you personally disagree with something, you shouldn't try to bring other people down. Show love to everyone.

Are you any different then the people you are putting down?

You leave a big wall of text as if that's it. Your mission is done. You no longer have to worry about it because you dumped it onto other people's feet. Considering you have no idea what is wrong with them or us, you really are absolutely no different.

Harm most certainly is being done. I guess it doesn't matter to you because it doesn't effect you. But it most certainly hurts people who are LBG or T.

Lip service without actually learning about the problem neither impresses me nor teaches me love. Your cymbal clanged. This is probably why it's wise not to preach at people until you learn the subject matter.

 

[blue_ladybug]

IM NOT CAUSING TROUBLE IM EXPRESSING MY OPINION

Then expect your opinion to get debated, argued with, picked apart, spit out and refuted.. Opinions are like eyeballs, everybody has one. All I've seen thus far is YOU shoving your opinion on us, when obviously we don't and never will agree with you on the subject of homos.. You're 17, big deal. You're old enough to handle being criticized for your wrong thinking. If you can't handle the heat, then get out of the kitchen and stop writing about such controversial subjects.. :/

 

[tourist]

I JUST POSTED MY OPINION IF YOU ARE GOING TO START HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT THEN JUSY GO AWAY

The other members have a right to express their opinions also. I really don't believe that they are going away.

 

[Depleted]

I respect you opinion, but I disagree when you say I'm picking and choosing what to believe. I believe that we all should worry about our own sins and relationship with God and not judge other people's lives and choices.

Now beginning to read the rest of your post... you're just funny, as in haha funny. You really have no clue about anything you're talking about--
- homosexuals,
- respect
- relationship with God
or
- judging.

And yet go on and on as if you do. LOL

Thanks for my early morning chuckle.

 

[tourist]

That's your opinion and interpretation. I respect that but I disagree. It's funny how a teenager can be so much mature than grown adults who are picking a fight with a 17 year old.

It is rare to see a truly mature 17 year old.

 

[tourist]

Now beginning to read the rest of your post... you're just funny, as in haha funny. You really have no clue about anything you're talking about--
- homosexuals,
- respect
- relationship with God
or
- judging.

And yet go on and on as if you do. LOL

Thanks for my early morning chuckle.

I busted a gut too chuckling.

 

[NewWine]

This makes me laugh. There are terrorists across the world tearing families apart by killing their children and you think GAYS are destructive? You must have not been reading eh news lately or something. There is much worse things going on in the world than loving someone of the same sex.

Try explaining this to the families whose lives have been ruined financially, emotionally and publicly by those loving gay people, simply because they refused to be part of a ceremony.

 

[Depleted]

It is rare to see a truly mature 17 year old.

I find teens who truly are mature never talk about maturity. Or, on the rare moments they do, it's more questioning what maturity is.

 

[Depleted]

Try explaining this to the families whose lives have been ruined financially, emotionally and publicly by those loving gay people, simply because they refused to be part of a ceremony.

What's sadder is the vast majority of homosexuals who, toward the end of their shortened lives, have no one -- not even in their own community, because the activist could care less about their actual community -- around to give them comfort as they die a horrendous and degrading death. Throughout their lives they fill an emptiness with sex. And when they become useless for sex they are all left with the emptiness and never-ending loneliness, because their very community only values self-gratification.

I can think of nothing lonelier.