Why are people on this site so rude?

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JTB

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#61
I believe you are the problem. Your determination to demand from others what you will not provide yourself is RUDE!

(oh, plueazzze put me on IGNORE, that will allow me to not have to worry about your nonsensical commentary)
When you put someone on ignore, in addition to you not being able to see their posts any more, THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE YOURS.

We ought to start a campaign to have that instituted here.
 

Lynx

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#62
When you put someone on ignore, in addition to you not being able to see their posts any more, THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE YOURS.

We ought to start a campaign to have that instituted here.
That would be an astoundingly bad idea.

I could put you on ignore and then say anything I want about you, and you would never know it.

That would be one of the most abused features ever on any forum.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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#63
I don't get it. We're supposed to be Christians. But I see so much hate and negativity and sarcasm and criticism. What gives?
I actually "left" this site a bit ago [exactly] because of what you're saying. I joined a different forum and now one of the "mods" is being rude and flippant . . . of all people.

Perhaps the Heavenly message is that we need to drop these lame sites and start working face-to-face, one on one others.
 

Rhomphaeam

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#64
if its a big problem take it up with the mods

I have been on a lot of different forums and this one is actually ok. Actually its pretty good and the mods are fair they arent bullies or control freaks. Also they dont have time to monitor each and every post and some of it is due to they nip it in the bud first by not allowing random threads to start (they all need approval first)

I havent noticed any huge flame wars here or got caught up in anything. But if its just you are new to internet forums you sort of have to figure out the best way to communicate. I do recall a few troublesome posters who just had a habit of offending everybody but it was reported and they were banned. I confess I do need to ignore some just for my own sanity lol
This [below] link may set your mind clear as to how the complexity of communications and their origin in the mind can become so fractured that the author of words is sent into a spin when they are refused. The link is here. @#1. And the only reason I have elected to make this point to yourself is because you just posted to Heather Frank (Combanitorics).

SocioPsychological explanations that give rise to reasonable empathy cannot explain many of the things that are said in forums.

That opening paragraph @#1 is a single sentence and there are few who would in fact follow it easily - yet it is exacting and entirely rational. Combanitorics was banned after that post took a significant twist and that was essentially predictable because it crossed some dark lines. The term Theosophy is utilised in the thread @#16 as an insult. As a former Occult Theosophist I was already reading her posts to discern the likely effect. As for reporting things to a mod - I don't do that when things are against myself because I am not effected by language when I can see the contract that is grammatically implicit. That field of study is called Phonology. Calvin had that same skill and that is why his works are sometimes misunderstood or else easily distorted. He wrote to project meanings in linguistic terms - in possible disregard of the spiritual implication that could ensue when his words were rejected outright.

We all claim a living faith - and yet we too often refuse the Lord's admonition to be ready to account for every word that comes out of our mouths. This thread is a lesser effect - but a similar meaning. We should stop excusing either ourselves or others when our words incite effects that produce the astonishing outcome to that now locked thread of Combanitorics staring at #1.

Jesus often utilised words that were astonishingly blunt and exacting - even to a seeming risk of considerable offence. Yet the offence was checked because he had the authority of the Father to so speak. Such words either provoke the flesh or if they are in the Spirit they afford an opportunity to repent. Are we so called in Christ that we can make of ourselves an equivalence of Christ? Yet that is precisely what is asked of us - to speak as though we speak the word of God. To be more than mere men. Not I, but Christ that liveth in me. If we understood that then we can also see why we also need to be dying daily and taking up our own cross - not insulting one another and missing the mark.
 
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KrisWampler

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#65
When you put someone on ignore, in addition to you not being able to see their posts any more, THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE YOURS.

We ought to start a campaign to have that instituted here.
Yeah the way this is being implemented right now makes no sense.
 

JTB

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#66
That would be an astoundingly bad idea.

I could put you on ignore and then say anything I want about you, and you would never know it.

That would be one of the most abused features ever on any forum.
If I put someone on ignore now, they could say anything they want about me and I wouldn't see it. Not sure there's much of a difference.
 

Lanolin

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This [below] link may set your mind clear as to how the complexity of communications and their origin in the mind can become so fractured that the author of words is sent into a spin when they are refused. The link is here. @#1. And the only reason I have elected to make this point to yourself is because you just posted to Heather Frank (Combanitorics).

SocioPsychological explanations that give rise to reasonable empathy cannot explain many of the things that are said in forums.

That opening paragraph @#1 is a single sentence and there are few who would in fact follow it easily - yet it is exacting and entirely rational. Combanitorics was banned after that post took a significant twist and that was essentially predictable because it crossed some dark lines. The term Theosophy is utilised in the thread @#16 as an insult. As a former Occult Theosophist I was already reading her posts to discern the likely effect. As for reporting things to a mod - I don't do that when things are against myself because I am not effected by language when I can see the contract that is grammatically implicit. That field of study is called Phonology. Calvin had that same skill and that is why his works are sometimes misunderstood or else easily distorted. He wrote to project meanings in linguistic terms - in possible disregard of the spiritual implication that could ensue when his words were rejected outright.

We all claim a living faith - and yet we too often refuse the Lord's admonition to be ready to account for every word that comes out of our mouths. This thread is a lesser effect - but a similar meaning. We should stop excusing either ourselves or others when our words incite effects that produce the astonishing outcome to that now locked thread of Combanitorics staring at #1.

Jesus often utilised words that were astonishingly blunt and exacting - even to a seeming risk of considerable offence. Yet the offence was checked because he had the authority of the Father to so speak. Such words either provoke the flesh or if they are in the Spirit they afford an opportunity to repent. Are we so called in Christ that we can make of ourselves an equivalence of Christ? Yet that is precisely what is asked of us - to speak as though we speak the word of God. To be more than mere men. Not I, but Christ that liveth in me. If we understood that then we can also see why we also need to be dying daily and taking up our own cross - not insulting one another and missing the mark.
eek

Death and life are in the power of the tongue.
That thread (I never saw it before you mentioned it) turned out very weird.

fancy posting about ppl that arent real, maybe that person had something to hide, then insisting they were real and everyone else was fake. Thats kind of paranoid, or some sort of schizophrenia.

I have actually chatted with a few ppl suffering from schizophrenia on christian sites. I can tell you it makes for a surreal conversation...!

If personal insults are just directed at ME, I can personally ignore that poster, but if someone is just rude and vicious in general to everyone else, I would report them.
 

Rhomphaeam

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#68
eek

Death and life are in the power of the tongue.
That thread (I never saw it before you mentioned it) turned out very weird.

fancy posting about ppl that arent real, maybe that person had something to hide, then insisting they were real and everyone else was fake. Thats kind of paranoid, or some sort of schizophrenia.

I have actually chatted with a few ppl suffering from schizophrenia on christian sites. I can tell you it makes for a surreal conversation...!

If personal insults are just directed at ME, I can personally ignore that poster, but if someone is just rude and vicious in general to everyone else, I would report them.
How we write does in the end prove us because words either incite a response in others or else when we read our own words as we are writing ourselves we can suddenly feel empowered by intellect I almost intervened in that thread to try and provoke a connection with her.

Schizophrenia was not her pathology or presentation. It was more characteristic of a manic or hypomanic phase of bipolar disorder. I believe that the offence in that thread originally arose because of another thread here @#1.

It makes me realise how careful we must be and why being psychologically empathetic (even when we are unable to discern something) can sometimes cause us to check what we say to others when their language is seemingly abstract to the point of being disconnected. In that lady's case her words were entirely rational but increasingly stark. They were also grounded in religious and bureaucratic precepts even to the point of citing Max Weber and his thesis of the Protestant Ethic and Capitalism. That is a conflict theory taught in theoretical sociology. The Lord knows.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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eek

Death and life are in the power of the tongue.
That thread (I never saw it before you mentioned it) turned out very weird.

fancy posting about ppl that arent real, maybe that person had something to hide, then insisting they were real and everyone else was fake. Thats kind of paranoid, or some sort of schizophrenia.

I have actually chatted with a few ppl suffering from schizophrenia on christian sites. I can tell you it makes for a surreal conversation...!

If personal insults are just directed at ME, I can personally ignore that poster, but if someone is just rude and vicious in general to everyone else, I would report them.
I've reported people on this site . . . it made no difference. I wonder why.
 

Lanolin

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I wouldnt say its bipolar disorder
Bipolar disorder is a mood disorder I should know because I suffered from it! (Now recovered and set free thank the Lord)

that person just had philisophical issues and political views that they couldnt reconcile.
Please do not represent bipolar disorder. When someone is manic they wont be making much sense anyway and need to chill out for a while. And often, they can be a bit crazy/funny but not nasty and rude.
 

Lanolin

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I actually would say its paranoid schizophrenia, or just plain paranoia.

Bipolar disorder isnt characterised by extreme paranoia like that. while people with bipolar disorder might have grand delusions, they are not on the scale of what someone with schizophrenia may have, where everything they encounter is a skewed version of reality.

for brief monents, some with manic psychosis might believe they are an angel or sent by God or can read peoples minds, but people with schizophrenia can believe the whole world is out to get them, they have a secret identity, they know everything there is to know, stuff like that. They might also feel they are special in some way. Or aliens are spying on them.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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I actually would say its paranoid schizophrenia, or just plain paranoia.

Bipolar disorder isnt characterised by extreme paranoia like that. while people with bipolar disorder might have grand delusions, they are not on the scale of what someone with schizophrenia may have, where everything they encounter is a skewed version of reality.

for brief monents, some with manic psychosis might believe they are an angel or sent by God or can read peoples minds, but people with schizophrenia can believe the whole world is out to get them, they have a secret identity, they know everything there is to know, stuff like that. They might also feel they are special in some way. Or aliens are spying on them.
Sounds like a description a teacher friend once gave me of her year 8 class! 😕
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Have I lost the art of conversation? Sometimes I find myself wanting to speak a response before I've heard what was said. Other times I find myself closing out the other's opinion before truly understanding it. And other times yet, I'm so sure that my opinion is the right one, I insist that my argument is right therefore I won, you lose, and I'll do and say anything to diminish your credibility, even sinking to using denigrating terminology against you, to enforce my so-called win. So I haven't been conversing, really, but rather declaring or dictating, and most likely haven't given a chance for the real truth of the matter to be given a fair hearing!
 

bluewriter

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I tried posting a thread and it said it was awaiting review and then it just disappeared. Is that normal on this subforum?
 
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ChristianTonyB

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I tried posting a thread and it said it was awaiting review and then it just disappeared. Is that normal on this subforum?
Yep. AFAIK thread starters are put on hold until approved my admins.
 

Magenta

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#76
When you put someone on ignore, in addition to you not being able to see their posts any more, THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE YOURS.

We ought to start a campaign to have that instituted here.
No. Why should your desire limit the ability of others?

Any ways, it will never happen...
 

bluewriter

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Yep. AFAIK thread starters are put on hold until approved my admins.
So, I'm the President of a recently started charity to help homeless and addicted people and I was asking members here what they thought about my charity. Since I'm appealing to a wide range of Christian denominations, I thought this would be a good place for people to share their insight into my charity.

They obviously deleted it. Any idea why they would do that?
 
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ChristianTonyB

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So, I'm the President of a recently started charity to help homeless and addicted people and I was asking members here what they thought about my charity. Since I'm appealing to a wide range of Christian denominations, I thought this would be a good place for people to share their insight into my charity.

They obviously deleted it. Any idea why they would do that?
You'll have to ask them directly. If I was to try and second guess any decision admins have made, I may well get it wrong.

However, if I was responsible for any decision making, I would probably have rejected your post. There's no way I could prove the integrity of your institution, and there are some very cunning scammers and conmen/women on the internet. I wouldn't have set this site up to be used as a means for any member to garner support or donations to their cause, so I would have to guard against that happening be it intentional or by default. I would probably offer you feedback on what I personally thought, and maybe passed on the thinking of my collegiate admins too, about your project and as to whether or not we feel it would be a good thing for you to progress along. It's probably better to ask your own church fellowship for an opinion if you have access to that, since they will know of you and your integrity, and provide support.
 

Rhomphaeam

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I actually would say its paranoid schizophrenia, or just plain paranoia.

Bipolar disorder isnt characterised by extreme paranoia like that. while people with bipolar disorder might have grand delusions, they are not on the scale of what someone with schizophrenia may have, where everything they encounter is a skewed version of reality.

for brief monents, some with manic psychosis might believe they are an angel or sent by God or can read peoples minds, but people with schizophrenia can believe the whole world is out to get them, they have a secret identity, they know everything there is to know, stuff like that. They might also feel they are special in some way. Or aliens are spying on them.
The whole world is out to get us! :cool:

A healthy mind may just be ignoring it.

We all have a secret identity and we can scarcely see it clearly ourselves - through a glass darkly.

We could just hang a few Scriptures to the pegs and some would think us spiritually minded and many doctors would think us mad. Most folks remain quiet in the face of insanity. Or else they may tear down the bridge and then curse the malefactor (as they so perceive their enemy) with a warning that if they walk the seven miles down the torrent of water which they cannot cross - along the bank which they are now trapped upon - they will find a ford of water and be able to cross to the malefactors side of the river - then confidently and in perfect civility tell them that the person who will be waiting for them when they have patiently walked the seven miles up stream back to the raging torrent is the same man who tore down the bridge.

We weren't speaking about you or me - we were speaking about a women who is now banned because she was mocked ever so sweetly and thought to threw herself into the river because she didn't know how to bear with the insult and so tore down the bridge to preserve herself.
 

Lynx

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#80
So, I'm the President of a recently started charity to help homeless and addicted people and I was asking members here what they thought about my charity. Since I'm appealing to a wide range of Christian denominations, I thought this would be a good place for people to share their insight into my charity.

They obviously deleted it. Any idea why they would do that?
*shrug

This forum is private property, owned and operated by RoboOp. It's his right to decide what is and is not allowed.

If he decided he didn't want the color orange discussed here, well... it's his forum.