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  1. wattie

    Today’s church’s misunderstandings

    Yes, eternal salvation has always been the same, OT and NT, not by a system of service but by grace through faith in the Redeemer. But the way people serve God in response to having eternal salvation has been through different systems of service. OT covenant to NT covenant.
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    Today’s church’s misunderstandings

    It was people's adherence to Gods way of serving Him that failed, God made no mistake..people go there own way. Israel failed to maintain the OT system of service. God then superceded that system of service in the New Covenant.
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    John MacArthur - our nation is drifting away - repent and pray - I listened last night

    I've heard John MacArthur teaches a lordship salvation.. where someone is making God Lord of their life right at salvation. John 3:16 shows belief in Jesus for eternal salvation. After this someone then can submit every area of their life to Jesus.
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    Baptism with the Holy Spirit and eternal salvation

    Oh yes.. you are right.. I got that mixed up. A very popular verse to say that the Holy Spirit baptises people at eternal salvation is this one: 1Co_12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made...
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    Baptism with the Holy Spirit and eternal salvation

    Yes I agree the Holy Spirit seals someone when the believe. But is this sealing baptism? I see the times the Holy Spirit comes in the midst of a group of a believers also.. is this baptism? I'm inclined to see it as empowerment for a group rather than baptism. But there is the case in Acts 2...
  6. wattie

    No 'But '

    Yeah I concur 😃
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    No 'But '

    I mean Jesus keeps the eternal salvation, not us.
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    No 'But '

    Yeah, if I say I will give you this free gift... IF you mow my lawns and do my washing, It's not a free gift. You'd have to do something to get it So with being given eternal life, it is a free gift, as Ephesians 2 says. When it is given, there is nothing the receiver does to keep it. Its...
  9. wattie

    I’m a Christian ✝️ who has no morality issues with having my walls covered with posters of beautiful semi naked women-am i wrong?

    The thing is.. Where is the measure of morality coming from? Can you honestly look at the bible and its teachings on purity and then say this is fine? I've often had struggles with the same sort of thing.. but when I do think it won't hurt or a little is okay.. it's my own judgment, not Gods...
  10. wattie

    Looking for a church

    If a church is going straight from the Word of God in teaching and application, then that is key. Believing the Jesus is God and is the Head of that church. Believing the bible is the Word of God and sole authority of practice of the faith. If you can find that out, then you will be on solid...
  11. wattie

    Baptism with the Holy Spirit and eternal salvation

    So what I'm seeing from you all mostly is there is a kind of figurative HS baptism at salvation. I still though dont see this this in scripture. Being empowered by the Holy Spirit isn't the same as being sealed for eternal salvation.
  12. wattie

    Baptism with the Holy Spirit and eternal salvation

    I would like to know how these are linked together in scripture. I see in scripture in the likes of Acts , these are most often already converted believers being empowered rather than getting initially saved. Your input?
  13. wattie

    Bible study - anyone?

    I like what Albert Garner put in his book Bible Analysis. Who is speaking? To whom? What is the subject? What is the occasion? Answer these when looking at a passage and you get a clear picture of what God is showing
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    The 10 Commandments

    The 10 commandments aren't binding on receiving eternal life, but they are the underlying commands in serving Jesus through the local church.
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    Denominational religion

    When looking at 'the church'.. There is the teaching it is all believers There is the teaching it is not all believers but is the institution of churches plural .. being put as one type. For eg.. analogous to 'the horse' or 'the bar' In the bible you see all believers as one church.. in...
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    Denominational religion

    Yes, full immersion 😀 A symbol of what has already happened to a believer when they were converted.
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    Denominational religion

    Yes, a church is not brick and mortar, it is the community of baptized believers meeting in that locality
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    Did you really trust in Jesus for salvation?

    Yeah, eternal salvation is 100 percent Jesus' work on our spirit to deliver us eternally and zero percent us doing something to get it. What does John 3:16 say? And John 5:24? 3:36 etc.. Calling for salvation is a response to being convicted.. so that's still not us getting it. It is God not...
  19. wattie

    New Testament Conversion

    A key thing for scripture understanding is to know the difference when salvation is from harsh/evil circumstances and when it is eternal salvation. For eg.. Romans 10.. we see eternal salvation And then in 1 Peter 3:21.. we see 'baptism now saves' .. but it isn't to do with 'putting away the...
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    Do you strive to make your calling and election sure?

    Yeah there is a response to being given eternal life and this is alot of what this is about.