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It seems to me the "faithful believers" are the true Church, and the true Church is from all nations from the entire world.

How about you do some explaining FG! We never get that from you, it's always a pointed finger with you. Explain how you know from scripture the Church will go through the tribulation?

LOL, doesn't matter if it means you have to explain, right, FG?

There is only one possible answer for "the hour of temptation which shall come upon ALL the earth." Especially when it is "to try them that dwell on the earth." That would be the Great tribulation, nothing else in scripture can even compare!

"I will keep you from" in Rev. 3:10.

That has nothing to do with what Jesus said, The Church being spared the wrath of God during the tribulation.

Christ stays on earth at the Second Coming to set up His Kingdom. The saints being "seized forcibly" at His Second Coming makes no sense at all. But on the other hand, it makes perfect sense if He is to fulfill the promise He gave to John to give to the Church in Rev. 3:10. " Because thou...

Being "caught away" is not a mystery to you? That means to seize forcibly or to take as in robbery.

How about this, Paul explains a mystery to us concerning the rapture in 1 Cor. 15, then gives more detail in 1-2 Thes. A biblical mystery is something that has not been known by man but is now revealed. Paul explains other mysteries in his epistles that were not previously known. The rapture...

And neither does the scripture say that the Church will go through the tribulation. There is much to fill in but you are not willing to consider the rapture view. One resurrection in the end will not fulfill scripture!

I can accept that someone disagrees with the rapture concept, that the Church is taken away before the wrath of God is unleashed on this earth. What I can't accept is someone denying the rapture concept is not found in scripture. That is just plain and simple ignorance! This is why the greater...

This is why! Matt. 27:24-25 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be...

That's the way I see it too!

Hey everybody notice the ancient Hebrew Calendar (Copy/Paste/link/below) That the First trumpet sounds at the beginning of the 7th Month (Beginning of the week) followed by the Day Of Atonement; then in the middle of the week Tabernacles (when Israel flees the city) Tabernacles/tents...

How many in this world have figured it out, they have the answer, they received it from the Holy Spirit? Every account is different and if I had a dollar bill for every one of them, I'd be a rich man. The truth is we will know after it happens. But we do have the general idea of what will take...

Your logic is total assumption! You are assuming that you know the results of the previous 5 vials on earth. You have no idea and neither does anyone else how conventional military operations have been effected. God has determined that the nations of the world led by the anti-christ will meet...

I'm sorry to say, my friend, you have just described your own self in 2 Peter. Paul made it clear that it's either by grace or law, it can't be both. He made it clear there is no righteousness for fallen man in trying to keep the law. But you have it your way, nothing else I can do.

Paul also said the Law is holy and good. The Law is perfect and is the standard of God's righteousness. There is no problem with the Law whatsoever, it is flawless, the problem is with fallen man who can't keep it! There are 3 reasons the Law was given, one of them is to show fallen man he...

Jesus was the last prophet under Law. He taught the Law and brought to knowledge the deeper meanings of the Law. Just as the torch in handed to others in the scripture, the Law/Grace issue was handed to Paul. Christ personally chose Paul to give us this information, this is the issue that took...

Not me, I'm only working on increasing my faith in Christ which will give the Holy Spirit more room to work out the commandments through me. It's about me surrendering to Christ and depending on Him to keep the commandments through me. Rom. 8:3-4 "For what the law could not do, in that it was...