Galatian Conundrums

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posthuman

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David knew the Messiah would die and be raised.
David knew that Christ would reign in His kingdom while David was in his tomb.

2 Samuel 7:12-13
"When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.

That is why Peter makes a point in Acts 2 that David is in his tomb.

During the millennium will David be in his tomb?
 
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The gospel of the kingdom requires one to keep the law of Moses.

Are you now disagreeing with that?
So Jesus basically taught "you must be born again,and immediately circumcised"?
 
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57 AD -- same year Romans is written, while Paul is in Corinth during the Spring.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.
(Romans 1:16)

  • the gospel ((singular))
  • first to the Jew, then to the Gentile
  • salvation to everyone who believes
Romans is written to Jews and Gentiles alike.

For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
(Romans 6:14)

  • the gospel of the kingdom
My kingdom is not of this world.
(John 18:36)
Yep,no brainer.
And why did paul correct peter if peter was supposed to be preaching a different gospel of law/dbr mixture?

One gospel,they all knew it.
That was why peter could say nothing when cornered about his hypocritical behavior.
 
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So unlike PS and posthuman, you believe keeping the law is absolutely essential, to have a right to the tree of life?
Conversely,christians that sin....are they ok with God. Does he wink and smile at them?

I was wondering if the pauline radicals are also the hyper grace adherants.
 
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(Rev 13:8 KJV)
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (the beast), whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

(the Lamb is Jesus, and he was slain, as we all know, from the foundation of the Christian world.)
BINGO
You just exposed why the paulines are against the 7 letters to the 7 churches.
 
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Don’t ask stupid questions. The gospel of the kingdom was for the Jews only

Which ones? Those who have the Spirit of Christ as a inward born again Jew .Or an outward Jew that stands in the same place as a unconverted gentile. Without God in the present world. . dead in trespasses and sin .

I would suggest studying the meaning of …. ye are not in the flesh

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

There were some that wanted to us their DNA or picture ID to get in. They did not have the Spirit of Christ in them working to both will and do the good pleasure of our God (God is not a man he is not Jewish)

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

What is the new name he named his wife as born again inward Jews in Acts that do have the Spirit of Christ. .. Christian?
 

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Don’t ask stupid questions. The gospel of the kingdom was for the Jews only

Ye worship that which ye know not: we worship that which we know: for salvation is of the Jews.
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in Spirit and Truth: for the Father requireth even such to worship Him.
(John 4:22-23)
Jesus carefully instructs all His disciples, those He heals, and even demons not to tell anyone that He is the Messiah.
yet He explicitly tells this non-Jew Samaritan sinner who He is.
why?


who else did He tell that He is the King of the Jews?
not the Jews. Pilate, the Roman. who else?

why?
was He come to become their king?
no.
He is and always has been their king, and as the prophets all told, He was to suffer many things, even death, which cannot hold Him, and bring grace to people from all nations.

He is exactly the same One whom they rejected as their king in 1 Samuel 8:7
 

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The gospel of the kingdom was for the Jews only
the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.
(Matthew 24:13)

And he went into the synagogue and spoke boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading concerning the things of the kingdom of God. But when some were hardened and did not believe, but spoke evil of the Way before the multitude, he departed from them and withdrew the disciples, reasoning daily in the school of Tyrannus. And this continued for two years, so that all who dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.
(Acts 19:8-10)

the LORD shall be King over all the earth
(Zechariah 14:9)
 

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The gospel of the kingdom was for the Jews only
".. let it be known to you that the salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will hear it!” And when he had said these words, the Jews departed and had a great dispute among themselves.
Then Paul dwelt two whole years in his own rented house, and received all who came to him, preaching the kingdom of God and teaching the things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ with all confidence
(Acts 28:28-31)
 
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Which ones? Those who have the Spirit of Christ as a inward born again Jew .Or an outward Jew that stands in the same place as a unconverted gentile. Without God in the present world. . dead in trespasses and sin .

I would suggest studying the meaning of …. ye are not in the flesh

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

There were some that wanted to us their DNA or picture ID to get in. They did not have the Spirit of Christ in them working to both will and do the good pleasure of our God (God is not a man he is not Jewish)

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

What is the new name he named his wife as born again inward Jews in Acts that do have the Spirit of Christ. .. Christian?
I can now understand better why you have difficulties accepting the mystery of divine plan of redemption.

You seem to read Paul into everything that happened before Paul. Why not read the Bible literally? Here are the relevant scripture involving who Jesus was ministering to when he was in the flesh.

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Genesis 17
10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Romans 15:8
Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

Matthew 15:24,Matthew 10:6 both indicated Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel
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So to give a direct answer to your question, Jesus was a minister to All the Jews who are yet to be cut off from Israel, meaning they are circumcised and follow the law of Moses.

They are the lost sheep, the nation have rejected God in the ot. His good news or gospel to them is very simple, “repent of that rejection and accept me as the son of God that was prophesied by your prophets. I will usher you to the promised kingdom and be your king.”
 

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The gospel of the kingdom was for the Jews only

Tychicus, a beloved brother, faithful minister, and fellow servant in the Lord, will tell you all the news about me. I am sending him to you for this very purpose, that he may know your circumstances and comfort your hearts, with Onesimus, a faithful and beloved brother, who is one of you. They will make known to you all things which are happening here.
Aristarchus my fellow prisoner greets you, with Mark the cousin of Barnabas (about whom you received instructions: if he comes to you, welcome him), and Jesus who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the kingdom of God who are of the circumcision; they have proved to be a comfort to me.
Epaphras, who is one of you, a bondservant of Christ, greets you, always laboring fervently for you in prayers, that you may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. or I bear him witness that he has a great zeal for you, and those who are in Laodicea, and those in Hierapolis. Luke the beloved physician and Demas greet you.
(Colossians 4:7-14)
8 "workers for the kingdom of God" are mentioned here.
at most 3, possibly only 2 are Jews.
 

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The gospel of the kingdom was for the Jews only

Paul in Ephesus speaking to Gentiles:

And indeed, now I know that you all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, will see my face no more.
(Acts 20:25)


 

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testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
(Acts 20:21)
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near!
(Matthew 4:17)
 

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The gospel of the kingdom

Land of Zebulun and land of Naphtali,
the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan,
Galilee of the Gentiles
the people living in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
light has dawned.
(Isaiah 9:1-2, Matthew 4:15-16)


 

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The gospel of the kingdom
Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!
(Luke 2:14)
For the kingdom is the LORD’s, And He rules over the nations!
(Psalm 22:28)
 
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So Jesus basically taught "you must be born again,and immediately circumcised"?
give then a little time to breath. According to doctors The eight day works the best . . . the peak of the blood clotting agent.

Its only a shadow used in a ceremonial law that point ahead of the suffering of Christ our bloody husband beforehand . It cannot draw a person closer or create more of a distance. . it can create pain .

like all shadows not something we could judge one another in respect to .Those would be the moral commandments they apply outside of the ceremony as a side show .

Colossians 2:16-18 King James Version (KJV) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,