O really?
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
1 Corinthians 13:1
Tongues of angels? Sounds like a heavenly language.
Read the rest of the post, refute the argument concerning this if you wish, right now it still stands.
For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 14:2
1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Concerning one who speaks in an unknown language without an interpreter
3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
One without an interpreter is not edifying the church as one who is prophesying
4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues,
except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying
If noone understands, then no one is edified. Hence "except he interpret". This is concerning speaking in tongues without an interpreter, showing it is unedifying.
No one understands them, huh? That means it's not an understandable language. It isn't for other people to interpret, since it's something that is spoken to God, who doesn't need an interpreter.
If it isnt for people to interpret, why did Paul say "except he interpret that the church may be edified?"
For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
1 Corinthians 14:14-15
Dont forget the rest of the context, which again shows this is about interpretion:
13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue
pray that he may interpret
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
Why pray I should be able to interpret Paul?
16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned
(does not speak the language you are speaking)say Amen at thy giving of thanks,
seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest
Again, this is showing that when one prays, sings, speaks in an unknown tongue, he must make sure their is an interpreter, so that all can understand, and not just those who understand the language.
If this was concerning a heavenly
language, who could interpret? If it is the case that some could, why are they not, and people just spitting out unknown words and noone understands?
Does that violate what Paul is saying here?
This is not about heaven languages, it is about the only example we have - see Acts 2 that explains it perfectly.
Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.
Romans 8:26
The Spirit does this, not us. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with tongue speaking. But is showing how the Spirit helps us.
"Groanings too deep for words?" "Praying in the Spirit?" Sounds like there's a lot more going on here than you're given credit. Then again, you block your mind out to anything related to the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
The Spirit is doing this, not us. I said "I dont
believe their is a language THAT WE CAN SPEAK".
Showing the HS can s
peak something else does not prove anything.