I will answer according to your questions and I have responded in a color code to reflect what you have asked about:
1) I am not saying that we never sin anymore. I actually said the very opposite. There is a difference between "sin" and "sinning". Here is a post where that is talked about. Without understanding the difference - we get this sinless perfection in the flesh false doctrine that some people make up.
Here is the link for that :
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...have-dominion-over-us-christ.html#post2835447
2) This is where the problem is - the old man is definitely dead. We need to know this. This "sin nature" that you have given a title to is not in the scriptures. We only have one true nature and that is the one born of God - the new creation in Christ. What is left over in the flesh are the "ways and habits" that were part of the old man's way of getting life before we became new creations in Christ.
I have posted scriptures "proving" that the old man is dead so many times nut I will just leave this one for now.
Romans 6:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
It is obvious you are not understanding what I am saying because I am the very opposite of legalistic. I am saying that whether you sin today or don't sin today - you are the righteousness of God in Christ. He makes you righteous.
3) "Living to ourselves" simply means walking by the spirit - which is the real us on the inside - the true nature which has been created in righteousness and holiness - the new creation in Christ. We are learning how to live by His life inside of us and thus there is no condemnation as we are learning to rely on Him and His life in us while we are in this body.
4) Identity is who you are in Christ. You are a child of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is a description of unbelievers - yes.
Hebrews 6 has been addressed so many times now but here is a thread that deals specifically with this and the often mis-interpreted Heb. 10:26-29 scripture as well.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/138679-hebrews-6-4-6-not-seems.html
If you see every warning scripture about living from the flesh as meaning that you don't go to heaven and go to hell instead then every Chrsitian is doomed because all of us live by the flesh to some degree or other.
5) The reason for understanding the Greek is because then it will be obvious that once we are in Christ we are sealed with Him forever. The Greek tenses prove this very thing.
1) I am not saying that we never sin anymore. I actually said the very opposite. There is a difference between "sin" and "sinning". Here is a post where that is talked about. Without understanding the difference - we get this sinless perfection in the flesh false doctrine that some people make up.
Here is the link for that :
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...have-dominion-over-us-christ.html#post2835447
2) This is where the problem is - the old man is definitely dead. We need to know this. This "sin nature" that you have given a title to is not in the scriptures. We only have one true nature and that is the one born of God - the new creation in Christ. What is left over in the flesh are the "ways and habits" that were part of the old man's way of getting life before we became new creations in Christ.
I have posted scriptures "proving" that the old man is dead so many times nut I will just leave this one for now.
Romans 6:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
It is obvious you are not understanding what I am saying because I am the very opposite of legalistic. I am saying that whether you sin today or don't sin today - you are the righteousness of God in Christ. He makes you righteous.
3) "Living to ourselves" simply means walking by the spirit - which is the real us on the inside - the true nature which has been created in righteousness and holiness - the new creation in Christ. We are learning how to live by His life inside of us and thus there is no condemnation as we are learning to rely on Him and His life in us while we are in this body.
4) Identity is who you are in Christ. You are a child of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is a description of unbelievers - yes.
Hebrews 6 has been addressed so many times now but here is a thread that deals specifically with this and the often mis-interpreted Heb. 10:26-29 scripture as well.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/138679-hebrews-6-4-6-not-seems.html
If you see every warning scripture about living from the flesh as meaning that you don't go to heaven and go to hell instead then every Chrsitian is doomed because all of us live by the flesh to some degree or other.
5) The reason for understanding the Greek is because then it will be obvious that once we are in Christ we are sealed with Him forever. The Greek tenses prove this very thing.
Someone said Moral Law is not a doctrine.
You're saying the Sin Nature is not in the bible.
Is the word TRINITY in the bible? Does it exist?
The Whole book of Romans speaks about the sin nature of man.
It's 50% of what ROMANS is talking about.
BTW, I don't go to links. I have my bible here and I've studied a lot. People that write articles have the goal to prove THEIR OWN point of view. I trust theologians much more.
Especially the EARLY CHURCH theologians who were not tainted by Calvin and the like.
Next time you read Romans, keep the concept of the sin nature in mind. We were born with the sin nature.
Romans 7:5
Romans 8:5-8
Let me ask you this:
WHY do you sin?
You may know the "sin nature" by another name:
inbred sin
the law of sin
a bent toward sinning
the carnal mind
an impure heart...
I think YOU would call It the old man.
So... if the old man is dead, why am I still sinning?
I agree with what you said about identity.
I don't agree with your next to last paragraph. It does NOT represent what I'm saying or mainline Christianity.
As far as going to threads to find out what Hebrews 6:4-6 means, I don't think so.
And you know how I feel about Greek.
I'm not sure it's very important for you and I to agree,
I just think it's important for those reading along.
Fran